“At this point I’ve realized that black men really just don’t like black women”

Savvir

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As a matter of fact looking back at your response we're in agreeance on this, they don't base their mindset on the real world, where you're mistaken is that you think what russ and ciara have going on is somehow indicative of what's realistic and to be expected in the real world.
no...

russ and ciara getting together is reality
russ and ciara got together in the real world
black women chase after black men in the real world
if you have yourself together as a man, its easy to find women who will value you in the real world
unattractive women are at a disadvantage to finding high level men in the real world

you thinking that celebrity couples are in any way factors into unattractive women being angry is just a distraction to the real issue
a smaller number of men can support a "traditional" family (kids and a stay at home housewife)
so unnattractive women end up losing out the most because that shrinking pool of men are taken by higher level women
has nothing to do with russ
 

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russ and ciara getting together is reality
russ and ciara got together in the real world
Just because something happens in the real world doesn't make it based in reality. People win the lottery in the real world, does that mean everybody should quit their job and bank on winning the lottery to be wealthy? People die in plane crashes in the real world does that mean you should expect to die every time you get on a plane?

if you have yourself together as a man, its easy to find women who will value you in the real world
unattractive women are at a disadvantage to finding high level men in the real world
No shyt. Even more of a reason for women to ditch their unrealistic expectations.
you thinking that celebrity couples are in any way factors into unattractive women being angry is just a distraction to the real issue
If that's the case and women don't put stock into this kind of shyt why are discussions on this so numerous and lengthy and filled with women on social media? To even pretend that most young women don't take cues and aren't influenced by the things celebs do and say is so silly and asinine I'm not even gonna waste time debating that with you anymore so we can just agree to disagree.
a smaller number of men can support a "traditional" family (kids and a stay at home housewife)
so unnattractive women end up losing out the most because that shrinking pool of men are taken by higher level women
has nothing to do with russ
See your problem is you're presenting this shyt as a false dilemma, as if they have no choice but to complain on sm when the truth is they could easily either lower their expectations to their level or raise their level to their expectations. Or hell even meet somewhere in the middle. You also make it seem as if these women were doomed from birth to be stuck in some sort of faux caste system that they didn't choose to be in, and that their actions (like having oow children) can't contribute to or hinder how attractive they are. fukk that. I know you've heard of the term 'with great power comes great responsibility,' but have you heard of its inverse. With great responsibility comes great power. And part of accepting responsibility is realizing and acknowledging the counterproductive fallacies you put stock into and replacing them with the truth.

Be honest, if the genders in this topic of discussion were flipped and i were kicking the same bs you are about not being attractive enough to get a woman and trying to justify why bm speak bad on bw you'd be calling me an incel and telling me men need to take more responsibility if they can't find a woman and need to work on themselves. Let's not be hypocrites.
 

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Just because something happens in the real world doesn't make it based in reality. People win the lottery in the real world, does that mean everybody should quit their job and bank on winning the lottery to be wealthy? People die in plane crashes in the real world does that mean you should expect to die every time you get on a plane?
you're confusing the argument....
applying your analogy to the current argument:
A person wins the lottery... and you get mad at the lottery winner for giving people false hope....

No shyt. Even more of a reason for women to ditch their unrealistic expectations.
yeah....
If that's the case and women don't put stock into this kind of shyt why are discussions on this so numerous and lengthy and filled with women on social media? To even pretend that most young women don't take cues and aren't influenced by the things celebs do and say is so silly and asinine I'm not even gonna waste time debating that with you anymore so we can just agree to disagree.
if a woman wants to date and marry a great guy... that's a good thing regardless of her past or if she's a celebrity...
i say fukk how this will influence other people..
ciara made a great decision for her and her kids...
russ made a great decision
the angry bitter women would be angry and bitter even if ciara and russ were never born
irrelevent

See your problem is you're presenting this shyt as a false dilemma, as if they have no choice but to complain on sm when the truth is they could easily either lower their expectations to their level or raise their level to their expectations. Or hell even meet somewhere in the middle. You also make it seem as if these women were doomed from birth to be stuck in some sort of faux caste system that they didn't choose to be in, and that their actions (like having oow children) can't contribute to or hinder how attractive they are. fukk that. I know you've heard of the term 'with great power comes great responsibility,' but have you heard of its inverse. With great responsibility comes great power. And part of accepting responsibility is realizing and acknowledging the counterproductive fallacies you put stock into and replacing them with the truth.
1. im framing the issue... not proposing a solution
complaining on social media has nothing to do with anything
bitter women gonna spread misery regardless...
if social media didn't exist they'd be doing it in beauty salons and laundromats

Be honest, if the genders in this topic of discussion were flipped and i were kicking the same bs you are about not being attractive enough to get a woman and trying to justify why bm speak bad on bw you'd be calling me an incel and telling me men need to take more responsibility if they can't find a woman and need to work on themselves. Let's not be hypocrites.
what are you even talking about?
men have to do work to be high value and get women...
thats already real life...
if you cant get high level women its your fault right now..
your hypothetical isnt even hypothetical... its reality...
I think those who get angry at women not settling are incels...
because high value men arent even affected by women who wont lower their standards
only incel men are....
:sas2:
high value men already know and accept that they wont get high value women unless they get their own level up
high value men dont have a problem being found attractive by black women....
So they are less likely to have the viewpoint that black women dont like black men
:sas2:
they are also less likely to see angry twitter women as a real issue...
because they dont have any issue getting the women they choose in real life
:sas2:
 

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you're confusing the argument....
applying your analogy to the current argument:
A person wins the lottery... and you get mad at the lottery winner for giving people false hope....
Who said i was mad at russ or ciara? I'm more so annoyed at the women who use what his decisions signify as some sort of justification to do what they do and then get mad at all men when what they do doesn't work out. Russ and ciara can do what they want to. And i think most nikkas who have misplaced resentment towards them would come to realize the same thing if they thought about it.

if a woman wants to date and marry a great guy... that's a good thing regardless of her past or if she's a celebrity...
i say fukk how this will influence other people..
ciara made a great decision for her and her kids...
russ made a great decision
the angry bitter women would be angry and bitter even if ciara and russ were never born
irrelevent
There's nothing wrong with having ambition. There is something wrong when you do nothing to make your ambitions come true, or even act in ways that are detrimental to what you want out of life and then sit and blame others. That's childish and unbecoming of an adult, man or woman.

And i understand that their marraige ain't solely to blame for what women think and that women have thought like this long before they came into the picture, I'm just illustrating why discussions about them are so contentious and using their example as a spring board to dive into to the underlying issue in all this.
what are you even talking about?
men have to do work to be high value and get women...
thats already real life...
if you cant get high level women its your fault right now..
your hypothetical isnt even hypothetical... its reality...
I think those who get angry at women not settling are incels...
because high value men arent even affected by women who wont lower their standards
only incel men are....
high value men already know and accept that they wont get high value women unless they get their own level up

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I like how you made this part big font as if you caught me in an aha moment.:mjlol:

As if i didn't agree with what i implied you would say hypothetically (newsflash: what made it hypothetical wasn't that i thought that statement was false [it wasn't], what made it hypothetical was that we're not having that discussion right now. If I didn't believe that the responsibility for a man's life rested squarely on the shoulders of himself then why would i be advocating for women to take responsibility? That would make me a hypocrite.)

As if I'm mad at women for having high standards. What does a woman's standards have to do with me? It's her life and if she doesn't want me to be a part of it I'll just go where I'm wanted. What i don't like is when women who have no one to blame but themselves for their lot in life waste their energy to spite and villainize black men who have nothing to do with their personal failures. You might be cool with disrespect but I'm not. And again, going back to a hypothetical scenario, if a black man disrespected all bw because of the personal failures in his love life you wouldn't hesitate to call him a c00n. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
 

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And again, going back to a hypothetical scenario, if a black man disrespected all bw because of the personal failures in his love life you wouldn't hesitate to call him a c00n.
Agreed. I'd call him a c00n too...
What I wouldn't do is make a statement saying black men are c00ns and point to Nicki Minaj marrying a pedophile thug as a reason why
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Shout out to Tomi Lahren for saying men in the age range of 25-60 are trash. .This bytch post dosent have a point . Truth be told it's really the opposite it's too much evidence that suggest the opposite of what she is saying or even alluding to. It's all good thoe I don't care about black women hating me disliking me or anything in between. Honestly my mother was the first black women to break my heart in many ways that I will not divulge . From the time I was boy ...I never have felt empathy of any sort from black women . At 36 yrs I don't wanna none at all ...I used watch and hear Oprah seek diss black men all the time noy many people if any said anything to her about it if any and this prevalent in the 80/90s. It been plenty of women that have thrown black men under the bus publicly and nothing has happened to them. Black men really is just any easy target ....I mean really what we going to do about it anyway? Back women will then turn and say they don't run the "black community" but yet have the loudest voices...and they the main ones that get they shyt off when called upon . The few good black women I hold them accountable cause this it not enough push back when women say this online or off . I can say I've heard this sentiment from all types of black women....just articulated differently. Sad shyt is it's this seething contempt black women have for black men and it really just been passed down threw generations . The reason Tomi lahren had to back track on her statement of "men are trash" is because it's white men that sign her checks and last but not least its white men were her privilege comes from cause in the white culture the men are put first and depended on because your privilege comes from them nothing really get done without white men . What can I say thoe it coo making it seem the value men bring to this planet anit shyt . Today and probably moving forward I'm done with conversation I truly believe it has to be a special place in hell for all the people who upvote this or dap this shyt or try to explain this ...it's so cool NOT to have any empathy for black men and not treat them us as human ...it makes me wonder do GOD have any empathy for black men ?
 
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Agreed. I'd call him a c00n too...
What I wouldn't do is make a statement saying black men are c00ns and point to Nicki Minaj marrying a pedophile thug as a reason why
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Quote me where i've explicitly said all black women and only black women were like this. Idk if I've made it clear enough talking about this for the past couple days but my message is directed towards a specific subset of women that have trouble with the concept of accountability, that transcends race and I'll be the first one to tell you that. It's mostly a societal problem that you see in western societies. The only reason i mentioned black in my hypotheticals was to address and make an all-things-equal comparison to the anti black statement made in op.
 

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Obvious she's speaking to in hyperbole and generalizing. Just like a ton of dudes on here do. Doesn't mean her observations don't have a measure of validity.

Anybody who has these talking points is an idiot. Same goes for male c00ns who shyt on black women. So no... there’s no validity in posting shyt like that.
 

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Deep down these dudes being Black themselves because of the challenges it presents. They want a nice easy life without the pain of being Black and being limited by society.
So they hate themselves and anything that represents Blackness including women.
These dudes are male wenches.
 

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Anybody who has these talking points is an idiot. Same goes for male c00ns who shyt on black women. So no... there’s no validity in posting shyt like that.



I think there is some validity. The question to me is how prevalent the suspicion, animosity, misogyny, and misandry is between Black men and women. I dont think its remotely as large as the internet will have people believe but it definitely exists. There's a whole lot of miserable and spiteful Black folks put here from both genders.
 
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