At what point did Jay z fall off to you?

At what point?

  • After volume 3?

    Votes: 6 9.0%
  • After blueprint?

    Votes: 8 11.9%
  • After the black album?

    Votes: 17 25.4%
  • When kingdome come drop?

    Votes: 23 34.3%
  • He aint fell off to ya ass

    Votes: 13 19.4%

  • Total voters
    67

Art Barr

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the seeds to jayz falling off,..
is associated to him biting and skills morphing an artist.
everyone tried and eventually failed at, biting all time.

that one artist, jay ruined himself with by biting at the time was, first gen second album death row, snoop.
with the brat being, the first only real successful multi-plat reoccurring draw snoop biter.
jay, and now this gen's whiz are the next successful gen of snoop biter's.
as jay bit,..second gen deathrow snoop.
while, whiz is the evolution and is smart enough to bite the third gen.
technically proficient and fully savy snoop, that still draws in some re-incarnated capacity still to this day, twenty years later.
if this was rnb,...
stealing a formula, or biting would be acceptable.
yet, this ain't no emo ass rnb,..
this is hiphop's economic submission on the music side, called rap.

outside of the brat,...
whom you could say,..was successful.
while also, drawing as a diverse regional mashup snoop biter style rapper, all time,..well I guess outside of jayz.]

typically, most who tried to bite first and second gen death row snoop failed.
[oh, and for all you still mad haters...
who skim my shyt, an are still on me saying the brat shyt.
if you don't believe me...go peep funkdafied, and then try to say the brat was not on snoop's nads.]

anyway,...

when, jay started trying to do simplified westcoast snoop impersonation second album, lyrically and in delivery on the dynasty
the same dynasty..
that I might as well add,..
I had to toss out the window like dana owens in set it off.

when that westcoast snoop jay shyt started.
that is what eventually lead to his eventual point of no return now.
which is what planted the seeds to let him know how simple he could be and still draw at his height.

it just so happened jay had great auxiliary parts around him sonically to cover it up.
similiar to the brat,
who also,..had great sonic and also administrative detail in place to capitalize off of it at one time.
also,..similar to the brat's greatest snoop biter of all time.
jay got a low key run,..where he was able to re-establish the numbers, of his past height in sales draw.
that immediately lead to his career defining declining multi-plat run with it, like the brat did.
taking place after his first drawing height saleswise on vol. ii.
into declining multiplat run on vol. iii.
then, solidly taking place again.
after the sales height of the dynasty.
right after the follow up of another multi plat declining project, blue print.
at a particular height, that we could consider the second height plateau for jayz's draw, all time.

the third being his return to sales dominance on bp iii.
which is when he switched his technical ability to the garbage corporate ballroom xmas party jay lyrics bullshyt we get now,..packaged as jay z,..and not, jay-z.

yet, it still goes to prove.
when you bite snoop,..
if you never do what even snoop had to eventually do around 2001.
which was getting better and more strict to the technical side of emcee'n, again.
you will eventually ruin the very draw all together you had , period.
so, hopefully jay makes a return to the technical side.
which was his bread and butter draw wise, originally.


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:rudy: @ thinking jay-z was more lyrical on the blueprint than on the black album.


we don't know how much of the black album jay actually wrote.
incomparison to the black album, we have to say that bp is jay being better lyrically.
since, we know that jay actually wrote bp, and we give merit to writing as an emcee in rap.
we don't give credit to having a ghostwriter.
so, we can not give jay credit for being better lyrically on the black album, over bp.
when, we know factually jay got help.
we don't even need to know how much help you got.
you are an emcee.
you not supposed to be getting no cot damn, halp!



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Dude could very easily make the album that YOU want him to make, it may not be up to par with RD, but I bet if you could sit down with jay one on one and tell him what it is about his music that you like, he could go and bang out an album that you'd at least enjoy, it ain't about you though.

:youngsabo:


I really doubt jay could make a record for me personally by him that I would like.
especially, if I sat with him and was like these are the series of the types of records, I only want to hear from you.
not to mention,...
if he did, right now.
he would make me look bad because his skill level as an emcee right now.
is not up to snuff to be able to pull off the shyt I would require him to do.
to make said music.
meaning,..duke would not make it to release date.
since, his shyt would be in the negative on the quality inspection side, rhyme wise.


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if he would have stayed retired noone would be accusing him of falling off....so, after the black album for me
 
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