Atlanta Podcasters Say The South Was Too Stupid to Understand New York Hip Hop

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the rejection of anything displaying the product of education or intellect

in the context of this discussion nikkas that act like they are allergic to words

you are right up top definitely did promote street fukkery pushing narcotics acts of violence etcetera the difference is nikkas was doing that & still pushing education as being fly

making a sport out of flexing your vocabulary to talk bullshyte eloquently

when NYC was at the wheel hip~hop rap as a genre sported a vocabulary 2000 plus words deeper than any other genre

in the history of recorded music motherfukkers displayed absolutely top tier craft the best wordsmith's to breathe air were coming from our culture

motherfukkers started hollering fukk all that rappity rap shyte imma hustler not a rapper bytches can't pop their p*ssy to that yaddayadda

iight so the whole world is on that now literacy is diving cross country the culture is struggling & the youth who should be the hope to save this shyte are not mentally equipped to do so

let's all accept that shyte is what it is y'all got it..........

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Come to find out all these years later the I real ones even admit to saying nonsensical shyt at times.........its one thing if nobody understands your local lingo, its another entirely to not pretend to understand some shyt that makes no sense........because thats exactly what them nikkas was doing.........pretending........attaching their own meanings to some shyt that had literally no meaning..........seeing that in light really sheds some light on the new York mindset about being fake and untrustworthy..........never beating them charges
 

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nikkaz will list the lyrical southern artists and not mention that often times....the South didn't like them more than a Plies or Boosie.

We'll brag to other regions that Outkast abd Dungeon family were kyrical....while they weren't more popular than artists "spitting that real shyt" in ATL.

As a southern ni99a im not longer afraid to admit that we put the final nail in the hip hop coffin. The west coast purchased the coffin with gangster rap. NY put the body in the coffin with "im not a rapper, im a hustler". The Durty South put the nails in the coffin by making hip hop NOTHING but a hustle. Don't give af if they cant rap...long as the ni99a was spittin some real shyt and had drip.
Great post. rap is dead and as you stated eloquently the south gets the all blame but each region indeed played a part in its death.
 

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I wouldn't say 'stupid,' but rappers on the East Coast, specifically in NYC during the 80s and 90s, who always prided themselves on their vocabulary, being wordsmiths, etc. Hip-Hop on the East Coast/NYC was, at times, more complex. The origins of NYC Hip-Hop were rooted in having a message, as well as partying, DJing, etc, but one of its important foundations was built on messages, politically speaking.

Southerners in general, whether they be Black or White, are known for enjoying the simplicity of things in life. That's how it's always been Down South. Musically, they're more about the grooves rather than the message, which is why Southern Hip-Hop blew up in the 00s and 2010s, because it became less about lyrics/message.

The reason why New York artists were like that, specifically in the 80s and 90s, goes back to the days of the Harlem Renaissance, in which Black New Yorkers for decades were very educated, knowledgeable, and had extensive vocabulary, etc. It might've changed since then, but from the 1910s to the mid-1990s, Black people in NYC were very intellectually driven, and that's why it reflected onto the artists, because they were the offspring of that movement. Even today, there's still some of that mentality around in up-and-coming artists.

 
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The South should have just owned up to ruining Hip Hop lol. They always get defensive ignoring the truth :dead:


That being said.... Outkast, Goodie Mob, Rick Ross, UGK, Scarface was always my favorite artists from the South. They made thought provoking music that I gravitated towards. And shout out to Memphis Hip Hop artists as well, they always make thought provoking music
That’s the shyt that kills me man. These fools don’t even listen to pop that coochie or Let me ride the donkey NOW but they’re listening to Kast, UGK, etc. the same people who listened to those two songs I named would get clowned for listening to Future or some current dumb ass rap. The South made a lot of its dope and historic music back before and around when Outkast blew up, it’s not our fault that the world caught on too late and let the bullshyt pop. I want whatever podcast this it to be canceled and I want them to not have a chance to go to another network.

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Blame Jay-Z. He pushed the “I’m not a rapper, I’m a hustler” narrative and made it look cool to not write rhymes. I believe the latter specifically is what killed “intellectualism” in hip-hop because Lil Wayne took the not writing rhymes narrative during his prime and made it popular down South.



Rappers nowadays do not write their lyrics anymore, they just go into the booth and freestyle whatever bullshyt comes out their mouth and sounds good and this directly correlates to mediocre to downright garbage lyrics because 95% of these new rappers don’t have the talent to do this like a Jay-Z does.
 

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Southerners in general, whether they be Black or White, are known for enjoying the simplicity of things in life. That's how it's always been Down South. Musically, they're more about the grooves rather than the message, which is why Southern Hip-Hop blew up in the 00s and 2010s, because it became less about lyrics/message.
this isn't true at all. we have our own lyricists who rap the way we wanna hear it. and they range from lyricists like k-rino, who may not be as well known, to face or bun or big boi and 3000, or any number of dudes. we like hearing social commentary in our music - or did until the mainstream money people decided to focus primarily on the dance/party genre, like the lil lon era, which is how atlanta became synonymous with Southern rap.

we don't need to hear a buncha nikkas rapping "5%er" shyt over boom bap beats we don't like. that doesn't mean we don't understand it, we just don't wanna hear it. personally, i've always like east coast rap. but i understand why it didn't catch on down here or out west like that. but that "slow and simple" southern shyt you spoke on has been regurgitated by people like you who don't know what you're talking about.
 
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