Banner Dreams & 2nd Apron Nightmares - Official 18x NBA Champion Boston Celtics 2025 offseason thread

[UpAndComing]

I don't care, I'll say what most of us are thinking. And I'm sure @William Heavy agrees with me

The way this entire Celtics-Knicks series and Tatum's injury is completely Joe Mazzulla's fault. Absolutely mishandled the entire situation. Celtics have been up double digits in every single game, and are down 3-1. Let's go through the idiotic things Joe has done

- Did not make offensive adjustments when Celtics saw their lead dwindle from jacking up too many 3 pointers
- Kept playing Hauser who was a net negative even though Torey Craig and Baylor Scheierman were on the bench
- Played Porzingis 20+ minutes in multiple games this series when it was obvious he was playing terrible. Which contributed to the lack of rebounding and the 2nd chance opportunities to help the Knicks get back in the game. Did not give those minutes to Queta or Luke
- Pritchard has been the most consistent player off bench, and even the best shooter on the Celtics this series, and does not play him enough
- Absolutely terrified to try different lineups because he's afraid of failure
- Constantly played Tatum the entire 24 minutes of the second half in multiple playoff games from the Orlando series to the Knicks series

This is 2023 all over again where he looks completely confused on how to run a team and adjust IN THE MOMENT when things aren't going right. Brad gave this guy an elite roster... and He literally botch TWO championship runs in 3 years. Unbelievable

 

[Raquinotj]

I don't care, I'll say what most of us are thinking. And I'm sure @William Heavy agrees with me

The way this entire Celtics-Knicks series and Tatum's injury is completely Joe Mazzulla's fault. Absolutely mishandled the entire situation. Celtics have been up double digits in every single game, and are down 3-1. Let's go through the idiotic things Joe has done

- Did not make offensive adjustments when Celtics saw their lead dwindle from jacking up too many 3 pointers
- Kept playing Hauser who was a net negative even though Torey Craig and Baylor Scheierman were on the bench
- Played Porzingis 20+ minutes in multiple games this series when it was obvious he was playing terrible. Which contributed to the lack of rebounding and the 2nd chance opportunities to help the Knicks get back in the game. Did not give those minutes to Queta or Luke
- Pritchard has been the most consistent player off bench, and even the best shooter on the Celtics this series, and does not play him enough
- Absolutely terrified to try different lineups because he's afraid of failure
- Constantly played Tatum the entire 24 minutes of the second half in multiple playoff games from the Orlando series to the Knicks series

This is 2023 all over again where he looks completely confused on how to run a team and adjust IN THE MOMENT when things aren't going right. Brad gave this guy an elite roster... and He literally botch TWO championship runs in 3 years. Unbelievable

Im Probably the biggest Mazzulla defender on this board and letting TWO 20 point leads and a 16 point lead in the 2nd half slip by is unacceptable. He hasn’t mixed in players that are capable of contributing(why is Scheierman, Queta & Torrey Craig on the roster? Thibs is putting Archiwa and Cam Payne in the game) and didn’t change strategies in games 1 & 2 when the Knicks were making a run. I know some of it has to do with Porzingis turning into Cody Zeller but Celtics should’ve gotten at least 2 of those games.

Now I been thinking and probably the only person who still thinks we have a slight chance. Porzingis needs to step up BIG and JB gotta go super crazy(I don’t think their health will allow it) D White and Pritchard need to play great as well. Let’s make it to game 6 and put the pressure on them.

 

[William Heavy]

I don't care, I'll say what most of us are thinking. And I'm sure @William Heavy agrees with me

The way this entire Celtics-Knicks series and Tatum's injury is completely Joe Mazzulla's fault. Absolutely mishandled the entire situation. Celtics have been up double digits in every single game, and are down 3-1. Let's go through the idiotic things Joe has done

- Did not make offensive adjustments when Celtics saw their lead dwindle from jacking up too many 3 pointers
- Kept playing Hauser who was a net negative even though Torey Craig and Baylor Scheierman were on the bench
- Played Porzingis 20+ minutes in multiple games this series when it was obvious he was playing terrible. Which contributed to the lack of rebounding and the 2nd chance opportunities to help the Knicks get back in the game. Did not give those minutes to Queta or Luke
- Pritchard has been the most consistent player off bench, and even the best shooter on the Celtics this series, and does not play him enough
- Absolutely terrified to try different lineups because he's afraid of failure
- Constantly played Tatum the entire 24 minutes of the second half in multiple playoff games from the Orlando series to the Knicks series

This is 2023 all over again where he looks completely confused on how to run a team and adjust IN THE MOMENT when things aren't going right. Brad gave this guy an elite roster... and He literally botch TWO championship runs in 3 years. Unbelievable

I'm starting to think it was Charles Lee who was making the in game adjustments in last years run. 2023 and this year no Lee and they feel similar. Joe still doesn't understand how to make in game adjustments to create offense, trust his bench, and have the right rotations. I compare him to a football coach who is a good coordinator but not a good head coach. He's good at designing the offense but not good at calling plays.

 

[SchoolboyC]

Im Probably the biggest Mazzulla defender on this board and letting TWO 20 point leads and a 16 point lead in the 2nd half slip by is unacceptable. He hasn’t mixed in players that are capable of contributing(why is Scheierman, Queta & Torrey Craig on the roster? Thibs is putting Archiwa and Cam Payne in the game) and didn’t change strategies in games 1 & 2 when the Knicks were making a run. I know some of it has to do with Porzingis turning into Cody Zeller but Celtics should’ve gotten at least 2 of those games.

Now I been thinking and probably the only person who still thinks we have a slight chance. Porzingis needs to step up BIG and JB gotta go super crazy(I don’t think their health will allow it) D White and Pritchard need to play great as well. Let’s make it to game 6 and put the pressure on them.

You setting yourself up for disappointment depending on Porzingis

 

[chief_keef_stan]

I don't care, I'll say what most of us are thinking. And I'm sure @William Heavy agrees with me

The way this entire Celtics-Knicks series and Tatum's injury is completely Joe Mazzulla's fault. Absolutely mishandled the entire situation. Celtics have been up double digits in every single game, and are down 3-1. Let's go through the idiotic things Joe has done

- Did not make offensive adjustments when Celtics saw their lead dwindle from jacking up too many 3 pointers
- Kept playing Hauser who was a net negative even though Torey Craig and Baylor Scheierman were on the bench
- Played Porzingis 20+ minutes in multiple games this series when it was obvious he was playing terrible. Which contributed to the lack of rebounding and the 2nd chance opportunities to help the Knicks get back in the game. Did not give those minutes to Queta or Luke
- Pritchard has been the most consistent player off bench, and even the best shooter on the Celtics this series, and does not play him enough
- Absolutely terrified to try different lineups because he's afraid of failure
- Constantly played Tatum the entire 24 minutes of the second half in multiple playoff games from the Orlando series to the Knicks series

This is 2023 all over again where he looks completely confused on how to run a team and adjust IN THE MOMENT when things aren't going right. Brad gave this guy an elite roster... and He literally botch TWO championship runs in 3 years. Unbelievable

Bold is one the biggest point we gotta get on coaches ass. You telling me Queta couldn't give better minutes than KP, KP getting bodies by nikkas half his size size, and can't hit shots right in the paint. It's obvious whatever he has he needs to sit he a net minus

 

[UpAndComing]

I'm starting to think it was Charles Lee who was making the in game adjustments in last years run. 2023 and this year no Lee and they feel similar. Joe still doesn't understand how to make in game adjustments to create offense, trust his bench, and have the right rotations. I compare him to a football coach who is a good coordinator but not a good head coach. He's good at designing the offense but not good at calling plays.

You make a great point. When Charles Lee came on the team, didn't really know who he was. Then I read that he was one of the main reasons for the Bucks having an elite defense in their 2021 Championship and I was like wow. And it makes so much sense. That 2024 team were so much more organized defensively and overall. Now he left, you are seeing it revert back to Joe Mazzulla's BS. I remember when I saw the report that he left to coach the Hornets, I was pissed

 

[Theo Penn]

I don't care, I'll say what most of us are thinking. And I'm sure @William Heavy agrees with me

The way this entire Celtics-Knicks series and Tatum's injury is completely Joe Mazzulla's fault. Absolutely mishandled the entire situation. Celtics have been up double digits in every single game, and are down 3-1. Let's go through the idiotic things Joe has done

- Did not make offensive adjustments when Celtics saw their lead dwindle from jacking up too many 3 pointers
- Kept playing Hauser who was a net negative even though Torey Craig and Baylor Scheierman were on the bench
- Played Porzingis 20+ minutes in multiple games this series when it was obvious he was playing terrible. Which contributed to the lack of rebounding and the 2nd chance opportunities to help the Knicks get back in the game. Did not give those minutes to Queta or Luke
- Pritchard has been the most consistent player off bench, and even the best shooter on the Celtics this series, and does not play him enough
- Absolutely terrified to try different lineups because he's afraid of failure
- Constantly played Tatum the entire 24 minutes of the second half in multiple playoff games from the Orlando series to the Knicks series

This is 2023 all over again where he looks completely confused on how to run a team and adjust IN THE MOMENT when things aren't going right. Brad gave this guy an elite roster... and He literally botch TWO championship runs in 3 years. Unbelievable

I feel you on just about all of these. Mazzulla and Porzingis were the weakest links. They have to be addressed.

Mazzulla’s substitution patterns were trash. I look over at the Pacers last game and see 10 players in double in minutes. 10! In a series we’re rim protection was lacking, Queta should’ve definitely gotten minutes. Craig could’ve contributed as well because he plays hard AF. Schiermann would’ve been pretty hard to trust at this point and would’ve been a liability on defense.

What we really need are DAWGS. We are severely lacking in attitude, alpha mentality, nastiness, whatever you wanna call it. Whether it’s a guard dawg, big dawg, or junkyard dawg, we just need 2 of the 3 categories on our roster at all times.

Guard Dawg - gimme an Avery Bradley or Tony Allen type player on the ball any day. It hurts my soul to see Aaron Nesmith blossom into a guard dawg over the last 2 years. Had Cleveland in hell. D Whiite is good, but also need someone that’s a grinder, no diddy.

Big Dawg - Enforcer type of dawg. I’d get rid of Kornet for someone with a Kelly Olynyk type of energy. Kornet just big for nothing.

Junkyard Dawg - Grant Williams, James Posey, Leon Powe type nicca that ain’t afraid to stir shyt up.

Get me 2 out of three of these categories and I’m good. Less analytics, more NWAs.

 

[Adebisi_Said]

Seems to be in good spirits

 

[Raquinotj]

I'm starting to think it was Charles Lee who was making the in game adjustments in last years run. 2023 and this year no Lee and they feel similar. Joe still doesn't understand how to make in game adjustments to create offense, trust his bench, and have the right rotations. I compare him to a football coach who is a good coordinator but not a good head coach. He's good at designing the offense but not good at calling plays.

Lee and Van Gundy were Huge losses. It’s showing now. I still believe in Joe and Sam Cassell.

 

[Raquinotj]

You setting yourself up for disappointment depending on Porzingis

I know it won’t happen but If he gives us an average Porzingis game 19/8 and JB gives us the same performance from game 2 in the Magic series we win game 5. I’m not giving up till there’s 0:00 on the clock We gotta win 1 for #0. I’m sure they will show him on the Jumbotron tonight that and possibly being the last game of the season will have the Garden rock in’.

 

[UpAndComing]

I know it won’t happen but If he gives us an average Porzingis game 19/8 and JB gives us the same performance from game 2 in the Magic series we win game 5. I’m not giving up till there’s 0:00 on the clock We gotta win 1 for #0. I’m sure they will show him on the Jumbotron tonight that and possibly being the last game of the season will have the Garden rock in’.

This is what I'm thinking. I know it seems far fetched. But I think how the Celtics perform in Game 5 will be the deciding factor for Celtics Management/Ownership to see if they will either blow up or keep the same team in the near future

 

[Raquinotj]

According to his Jayson Tatum camp he will be out 8-9 months.

 

[Raquinotj]

This is what I'm thinking. I know it seems far fetched. But I think how the Celtics perform in Game 5 will be the deciding factor for Celtics Management/Ownership to see if they will either blow up or keep the same team in the near future

Jrue and Hauser gotta go and that will put us under the 2nd apron, if they wanna put a playoff team on the floor next year. Jrue is there defensively sort of but offensively he fell off. Hauser is useless when it matters. He’s playing tonight, He has the chance to suit up and give us 8-10 points and at least go out on a positive note. Tatum 28 PPG will have to be replaced by everyone taking their game up another notch.

If they wanna go full blown tank mode they can trade all Jrue, Hauser, KP, Let Al go(he said he’s not retiring) and Kornet and ultimately can shop JB around for the right price(top 3 pick in this draft or in a Giannis trade-Unlikely)

 

[SchoolboyC]

I don’t see a win unless we go crazy from 3 and/or the Knicks come out complacent

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Seems to be in good spirits

Best Celtic since Pierce