Before Jay Z, who was the rapper that failed/washed up rappers blamed for their careers not going the way they wanted?

[Mac Ten]

Pete Rock for the YGz…

They put the beats on him at a cookout in retaliation.


Prodigy for Bars N Hooks….


Their career wasn’t going the way they hoped so they broke into P and Hav’s crib and stole some stuff.

 

[Mac Ten]

50

Buck ruined his own career by going against 50, twice

Banks was pushed to be next but he didn’t want it which infuriated 50…. He left without any issues


50 let P do his album “Return Of The Mac” at Koch

Mobb got a release date from 50 as well

50 may have tried to be a drill sergeant but at least his crew got paid for their work.


Jay on the other hand

 

[Mac Ten]

Every rapper who made it big has had SOMEBODY throw that “You didn’t do such and such for me” shyt in their faces. Jay just ended up having the most out of a crew who became semi-household names so their accusations rang louder.

Cormega and Nature spent years blaming Nas for all of their problems

Wu-Tang had a bunch of infighting and the lessor acclaimed members like Masta Killah accused RZA of everything from playing favorites to sabotaging their solo efforts

Jay had/has Beanie Sigel (Gold artist) Camron (Gold-Platinum artist) Kanye West (Multi-Platinum megastar) Dame Dash (business partner) all talking shyt about him. They’re notoriety is bigger than most.

But it stands to point out that Beanie Sigel was a fukk up who couldn’t stay out of trouble and ended up losing a lung behind that street shyt.

Dame Dash never could make another Hov and has spent the later years making a living sitting around talking about the glory days he never had

Kanye West is an insane c00n who masquerades as Hitler born again

Cam retired from rapping and had to become a podcaster to get a second lease on life.

So i’d say Jay is entirely justified for staying far away from those individuals and letting them fall on their own swords.

I disagree about that….

I wouldn’t say that Cam retired. Music is like a hustle to him now which is why he’s cheap with engineering(Skitzo and Crime Pays).


You can tell that him and Ma$e really like to do the show and say what they want.


Kanye should be complaining about Jay considering that he was a legend in two games. He did a better job and a longer career than Beans

 

[Street Knowledge]

Nobody.

Because no rapper had that level of control. Thread is just deflecting from the fact that Jay-Z weasled his way to the top of def jam and killed the label.

Yeah no rapper was ever a ceo of a label before Jay Z

 

[Street Knowledge]

I disagree about that….

I wouldn’t say that Cam retired. Music is like a hustle to him now which is why he’s cheap with engineering(Skitzo and Crime Pays).


You can tell that him and Ma$e really like to do the show and say what they want.


Kanye should be complaining about Jay considering that he was a legend in two games. He did a better job and a longer career than Beans

Why should Kanye be complaining about Jay Z?

He was a nobody in the music industry before getting the privilege of working with him and signing to his label

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Dr. Dre

To casuals or non hip hop heads this seems like blasphemy, but it's true. Although Snoop, Em & 50 became global icons, just about every dre artist never even dropped. Seems to me that unless the artist was destined for international stardom, Dre threw them to the bushes.

 

[Whips-n-Chains]

Dru-Ha

The BCC jewish dude?

 

[Mac Ten]

Why should Kanye be complaining about Jay Z?

He was a nobody in the music industry before getting the privilege of working with him and signing to his label

I meant to say no…


Kanye should have stayed around Jay.


Around Jay, he made sure that Ye took his meds and kept his phone out of site.


Back then, he was still a good investment. Nowadays, no

 

[Mac Ten]

Nobody.

Because no rapper had that level of control. Thread is just deflecting from the fact that Jay-Z weasled his way to the top of def jam and killed the label.

Jay was about to audit the label for his money that was owed…

Def Jam owed him some BOO KOO money so rather than bankrupt the company, they bartered a trade where he can leave with all his masters if he took the role of president.


It’s not his fault that his peers were dropping subpar albums that year(LL and X) plus he did Nas right when LA Reid put him on Def Jam(We got a classic collab out of it