Ben Simmons - "They picked Kemba? His team is 7 games under us"

[Th3G3ntleman]

No one gives a fucck about Kemba outside of some flabby New Yawkers. Stop the slander. And to the fukking clown that keeps mentioning Mitchell please stop. Homie is dropping 19 points on 16 shots barely sharing the rock and playing adequate defense. Simmons is already a great defender and orchestrates one of the best 5 man units in the entire league. Fucck out of here.

 

[42 Monks]

Lol at your context

Ben Simmons vs Donovan Mitchell
Pts: 16.5 vs 19.4
Reb: 7.7 vs. 3.4
Assist: 7.3 vs 3.4
FG%: 52.5 vs. 44.4
EFG%: 52.5 vs. 51.4
3PT:%: 0 vs 35.4
PER: 18.3 vs 17.1
WS: 4.6 vs. 3.0
ORTG/DRTG: 105/103 vs. 103/107
BPM: 3.2 vs. .8
VORP: 2.4 vs. 1.2

In what planet is Donovan Mitchell playing better than Ben Simmons?

The one where Mitchell is the #1 option on his team while Simmons is being propped up significantly by Embiid its absolutely amazing how Mitchell has got the Jazz to .500 this ball year considering their injuries and roster overhaul

 

[42 Monks]

No one gives a fucck about Kemba outside of some flabby New Yawkers. Stop the slander. And to the fukking clown that keeps mentioning Mitchell please stop. Homie is dropping 19 points on 16 shots barely sharing the rock and playing adequate defense. Simmons is already a great defender and orchestrates one of the best 5 man units in the entire league. Fucck out of here.

who in the whole fukk are you gonna pass the ball to in utah? also utah plays at a bottom 5 pace in the league while philly plays at the top 5

for all this talk about hating yal sure got plenty to pass around too

 

[Poitier]

Lol at your context

Ben Simmons vs Donovan Mitchell
Pts: 16.5 vs 19.4
Reb: 7.7 vs. 3.4
Assist: 7.3 vs 3.4
FG%: 52.5 vs. 44.4
EFG%: 52.5 vs. 51.4
3PT:%: 0 vs 35.4
PER: 18.3 vs 17.1
WS: 4.6 vs. 3.0
ORTG/DRTG: 105/103 vs. 103/107
BPM: 3.2 vs. .8
VORP: 2.4 vs. 1.2

In what planet is Donovan Mitchell playing better than Ben Simmons?

THIS post embodies what I mean when I say stat nerds treat stats as truth without contextualization.

Nowhere do you even account for roster, role, or breakdown how these two players score.

 

[RoGethoes]

I don't see why Been is crying he's a rookie.if he even gets a little bit better he should make it every year after this one

 

[010101]

His father from the BX

It’s only right Ben have some *uptxwn cockiness and bravado

negative

real uptxwn g'z keep it cool

killers move silently

he's hoeish that must be some aussie sass

*

 

[KingJay]

For the record I think ben and Kemba should have both made it before dragic but he a rookie they hardly ever make the all star game he gonna have many more chances ...

So what? I know rookies tend to not make the all star game, but that's a stupid concept. If you deserve to be an all star, you should be an all star. Plain and simple.

 

[Sire366]

THIS post embodies what I mean when I say stat nerds treat stats as truth without contextualization.

Nowhere do you even account for roster, role, or breakdown how these two players score.

Where do you want to start. One player is a passer who is able to collapse the defense and kick it out for three points, as well as draw defenders to allow joel to role to the basket. The other is right now a player who shoots in isolation, so it is obvious who makes their team better. There is no argument who is a better defender.

Ben Simmons team is 4 points better with him on the floor vs off, meanwhile Donovan mitchell performance is .2 points, which is meager.

If your only argument is the "eyes" one, then okay, who pops off more making shots when there on, its Mitchell. He can wow you making shots in ways Ben cannot yet. But to say outright he is better than Ben right now, it is laughable. You have nothing to point to.

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

The one where Mitchell is the #1 option on his team while Simmons is being propped up significantly by Embiid its absolutely amazing how Mitchell has got the Jazz to .500 this ball year considering their injuries and roster overhaul

Last I checked one team made the playoffs last year and that wasn't the 76ers. Yall keep pushing the roster narrative where if we broke down their respective rosters outside of Embiid the Jazz have a lot more to work with

Embiid
Gobert
Ingles
Hood
Rubio
Favors
Saric

That's the order of players in terms of ability now.Stop acting like the cupboard is bare in Utah to try to prop Mitchell up.

 

[VegetasHairline]

6’10” Rondo is not an all star. Stop it.

 

[Poitier]

Where do you want to start. One player is a passer who is able to collapse the defense and kick it out for three points, as well as draw defenders to allow joel to role to the basket.

Joel was elite in PnR prior to Ben ever playing an NBA minute

Having gravity gets diminished when teams simply pack it in on you and dare you to finish because you're soft.

The other is right now a player who shoots in isolation

A skill all elite perimeter players have.....something which Bum Simmons will never be able to do.

There is no argument who is a better defender.

Ben is the more versatile defender being able to switch but Donovan is better on-ball and off-ball.

Ben Simmons team is 4 points better with him on the floor vs off, meanwhile Donovan mitchell performance is .2 points, which is meager.

The more pertinent statistics would be Bum's numbers with and without Joel on the floor

 

[Miggs]

Where do you want to start. One player is a passer who is able to collapse the defense and kick it out for three points, as well as draw defenders to allow joel to role to the basket. The other is right now a player who shoots in isolation, so it is obvious who makes their team better. There is no argument who is a better defender.

Ben Simmons team is 4 points better with him on the floor vs off, meanwhile Donovan mitchell performance is .2 points, which is meager.

If your only argument is the "eyes" one, then okay, who pops off more making shots when there on, its Mitchell. He can wow you making shots in ways Ben cannot yet. But to say outright he is better than Ben right now, it is laughable. You have nothing to point to.

He does this because he cant shoot or finish consistently....Its being told as a strength of his when in fact its a liability...because im sure the 6ers would rather him be able to score over smaller defenders inside 10 feet...

 

[Flight]

6’10” Rondo is not an all star. Stop it.

He had a few rough weeks in December..but he had a case as a reserve. He had good fan voting numbers as well..His problem shouldn’t be with Kemba. It should be with Silver.

 

[Lakerman0834]

Lol at your context

Ben Simmons vs Donovan Mitchell
Pts: 16.5 vs 19.4
Reb: 7.7 vs. 3.4
Assist: 7.3 vs 3.4
FG%: 52.5 vs. 44.4
EFG%: 52.5 vs. 51.4
3PT:%: 0 vs 35.4
PER: 18.3 vs 17.1
WS: 4.6 vs. 3.0
ORTG/DRTG: 105/103 vs. 103/107
BPM: 3.2 vs. .8
VORP: 2.4 vs. 1.2

In what planet is Donovan Mitchell playing better than Ben Simmons?

What’s bens record without embiid tho?

 

[Left.A1]

6’10” Rondo is not an all star. Stop it.

Rondo was a 4x all star ...a 6’10” version would obviously be even more dominant and deserving