Ben Simmons - "They picked Kemba? His team is 7 games under us"

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If anything Ben's lack of offensive ability has lost Philly a good amount of games. That team should be top 8 in the league. There offensive sets get stagnant at times during tight games...Either Joel has to make something happen or there hoisting silly 3s. Teams disregard Ben and his lack of confidence in what he can do at that stage of the game keeps him from being aggressive
 

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You have to look at all the aspects of what makes a complete PG including specific intangibles which don't always show in the statistics.

Ben Simmons is not an elite or great ball handler.

I don’t know that this really makes a guy a great point guard in itself ...for example if I were to say ..well Ben is a better more explosive athlete than Kemba .. does that mean he’s the better player or point guard because of that? Is Jamal Crawford a great point guard because he has an elite handle? Maybe if we were talking about AND1 leauge or something but tbh I think his handle is adequate for the position ...he doesn’t need to be skip to my lou

Does Goran Dragic have “elite” handles? ... did that stop him from being an all star?

Ben Simmons can't shoot worth shyt which limits open driving lanes & passing lanes for his teammates. Also Simmons poor shooting restricts his coach from utilizing him as focal point in crucial/end game situations either as a scorer or decoy.

Good PG's can also carry their team when there's a scoring drought or they're needed in clutch situation to tie or win a game, something Ben Simmons is incapable of doing thus far in his career.

Lets also factor in that Ben Simmons is a poor free throw shooter (the worst in the NBA among PG's) but he's also 7th among all PG's in total free throw attempts.

We can just cut the noise out and simplify this because you’re basically talking about scoring here and at the end of the day for all of this talk about can’t shoot this and no offense that ... his TS this season is 54%... Kemba’s is 56% ... I mean as far as overall scoring efficiency between the two it’s not like Kemba is just washing him in that category even with all his issues

Additionally whatever passing lane issues his shot brings he more than makes up for with his passing vision and ability to draw defenders on him with his penetration thus opening free jump shots and cutting lanes for his teammates

We just may have a different definition of what an “OVERALL” PG’s responsibilities are tho ... for me it’s 3 main things

-Does he control the tempo of the game

-Does he run an efficient offense

-Does he involve his teammates

+

-Does he play defense

and then intangibles of course/ leadership qualities and things like that ... I don’t look at two guys and say ..ohh he has a better crossover he’s a better overall PG
:yeshrug:

To me Kemba is a little toooooo one dimensional for my taste ..if he’s not scoring what’s he giving you..
:hubie:


Ben Simmons also is a turnover machine averaging 3.7 Turnovers Per Game among PG's.
This is a solid point ...so far this year you are going to get more playmaking for others with Ben but more ball security with Kemba



And Simmons is 4th in Personal Fouls Per Game among PG's &1st in total Personal Fouls :damn:among all PG's which hinders the 76's by allowing other teams extra
opportunities to put points on the board
This is pretty irrelevant honestly ...“total” stats are highly influenced by how many minutes you play Ben is asked to matchup against bigger players and help on penetration more than most PG’s so his total fouls being up there doesn’t surprise me however saying that because of this he hinders the Sixers Defense is a complete stretch that’s not based on facts... he along with Joel are probably the best two defensive players on that team followed by Cov ... and he is still certainly a better defender than Kemba I don’t think most resonable people would argue otherwise





Patrick Beverly's calling card into the league was/is his defense, but outside of his defensive prowess, he's an average, serviceable PG & not a complete, top tier PG like Kemba.
What does any of this have to do with my point? I didn’t say he was Kemba’s equal as an overall player ... I said that his size hasn’t hampered him from being one of the better defenders in the leauge


Kemba is not a top tier PG imo

Curry
CP3
Westbrook
Kyrie
Lillard

Are all safely ahead of him I’d even put Wall ahead of him also when healthy ... if you’re securely outside of the top 6 players at your position I personally can’t call you “top tier” perhaps “fringe top tier” if I’m being completely generous




:rudy: You can't eliminate Simmons size & height advantages which contribute to his defense & rebounding ability when you're the tallest PG in the history of the NBA weighing around 230lbs.
Just being tall =\= being a good defender


Ben is a good defender because he has the skills and instincts/commitment to excel on that side of the ball in addition to his size not simply because of it.... solely using Kembas size as an excuse/crutch for his defensive deficiencies is just that ..an excuse...especially when I just showed you guys that are his size and still high caliber on that end ...but like I said earlier regardless of WHY you want to say Ben is a better defender you are ultimately conceding that he IS more impactful on an entire side of the ball in comparison to Kemba ...trying to ignore/downplay that or sweep that reality under the rug by saying “well he supposed to be better anyways” just to prop Kemba up is kind of silly
 

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Ben pops shyt but ain't about that life at all. HUGE difference. He barked at Lowery first the other week and then looked like a bytch when Lowery told him to meet him in the back :mjlol:


Ben mixed but that bytchassness ooozing heavily from his cac side
 

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ben simmons is proof that the media protects their golden boys.

hes always been like this.

look a the LSU debacle.
I always found issue with how he's so "elite" yet he couldn't elevate decent talent around him at LSU. It was my beef with Fultz too. It's one thing to be at a mid major but these fools were at major programs and both their teams were complete shyt.
 

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16 7 and 7 with 2 steals shooting over 50%

:whoo:


People bringing up the no jump shot shyt are short sighted as shyt. If dude even gets a SEMBLANCE of a J it's a wrap. The fact he is so effective and unstoppable getting to the rim when everybody on earth knows he not even going try to attempt a jumper is spooky.

And believe he hard body. Yall saw Kyle Lowry face when Ben ASKED HIM for the run. Ben be in them circles in Philly that only AI and Vernon Maxwell could go too, I hope he don't get caught up but he seem like he really with the shyts
 

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He barked at Lowery first the other week and then looked like a bytch when Lowery told him to meet him in the back :mjlol:


nikkas lying like we ain't got video evidence :what:
Simmons clearly suggested they go back there first.


What you think he was scared cause he ain't do the typical fake NBA thug shyt that Lowry did afterwards? :mjlol:
It's the dude who walks back then calmly knowing he about to fukk you up you have to worry about
The fact Simmons did that in Lowry home town knowing Lowry probably had ppl at the game shows he don't give a fukk.
Not sure if you from philly or not but Simmons be in environments the average athlete don't be. I don't know how he grew up in australia but he clearly ain't scared of these NBA nikkas. Regardless of his facial expressions or calm demeanor
 

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He never will.

He wasn't as bad as Ben but I remember once upon a time people use to clown lebron for not having a consistent J
Then they clowned him for not being able to consistently hit the 3
Ben is older at the same stage in they careers but yall being extra like dude can't work on his J and at least get it average
 

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He wasn't as bad as Ben but I remember once upon a time people use to clown lebron for not having a consistent J
Then they clowned him for not being able to consistently hit the 3
Ben is older at the same stage in they careers but yall being extra like dude can't work on his J and at least get it average
He has to first take the shots and miss them. You can't improve a shot you never take. I know he's trying to play to his strengths and he's doing a really good job but if he wants to improve his J, I think he needs to try it in game action.

16/8/7 on 52% are great numbers for a rookie so it's not all bad, but the jumper and those free throws and gonna need to be fixed.
 

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I always found issue with how he's so "elite" yet he couldn't elevate decent talent around him at LSU. It was my beef with Fultz too. It's one thing to be at a mid major but these fools were at major programs and both their teams were complete shyt.
He had the WOAT coach at LSU the next season proved that
 
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