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Best era of black wrestlers?
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True, but that's another question altogether. Quality vs clout.
According to a good portion of this forum, only wwe matters.
That's their loss. And those same people want to complain about how much WWE sucks and take pride in not watching Raw. But when people talk about any non-WWE promotions those same people have jokes and ridiculous reasons for why they refuse to explore other options.
Here Comes the Pain
Superstar
90s:
ron Simmons becomes the first black wcw champ.
Booker t won the wcw title.
Legendary tag team with the Harlem heat. They were the first black wcw tag champs.
D`lo brown putting in work in the midcard scene. He was winning the intercontinental and European championship.
ron Simmons becomes the first black wcw champ.
Booker t won the wcw title.
Legendary tag team with the Harlem heat. They were the first black wcw tag champs.
D`lo brown putting in work in the midcard scene. He was winning the intercontinental and European championship.
Here Comes the Pain
Superstar
for the 80s people are forgetting to mention the black freebird Iceman King Parsons, the true first black world champion
and Brickhouse Brown
two highlights of world class in its heyday
but i belive overall 90s
WWF,WCW,ECW all had prominent black wrestlers who held titles and played significant roles on television
and Brickhouse Brown
two highlights of world class in its heyday
but i belive overall 90s
WWF,WCW,ECW all had prominent black wrestlers who held titles and played significant roles on television
TheAlbionist
Superstar
The real golden era was probably when JYD and Tony Atlas were genuinely popping as monster babyfaces to all sides of the crowd... that was the moment things should've been set in stone... Terry Funk doing the job as a heel with racist leanings had JYD at Hogan levels of support within the crowds. The early/mid 80s bled into the mid/late 80s and it was straight back to one black person per card, no world champs and "savagery" gimmicks all over the place. Even Atlas, the fukking Black Superman got saddled with Saba Simba.
Nation era to Ron Simmons retirement brought some shine back, but it was a different spin to how you hear Atlas discuss his glory days where "the only colour that mattered was green". The Nation were pushed as heels, playing on white-bred paranoia about powerful black men flexing their physical and political muscles. Despite Olympic pedigree and competition medals falling out of his kitbag, Mark Henry was turned into Sexual Chocolate (the comic-strip sex obsessed black brute) and given bargain basement angles with Mae Young playing off that "But what if your Grandma brought home a big, scary black man, huh?". They pretty much just used race to be divisive compared to the pushes of JYD and Atlas which were intentionally inclusive.
A little beacon of hope in the dark (or not...) days was that APA segment Farooq and Bradshaw did in a bar with the racist rednecks getting their asses beat for repeatedly calling Farooq "darkie"... that was a truly fukking intense and satisfying segment. I remember watching it with my mouth hanging open just begging Simmons to jump over the bar... I don't think *anyone* would have the guts to do that angle on live TV today.
The Rock's success seems to stand alone... after the end of the Nation his blackness was almost never mentioned again unless you already knew his father's work.
It could be argued we're on the cusp of the next golden era tbh... New Day are over as hell for a start; Kofi has struggled as the token for a decade but has retained enough respect to give Big E and Xavier the boosts they need to become the stars they undoubtedly can become. Big E has the build and sweats pure charisma and comic timing.. Xavier has one of the best left-field imaginations I've seen since DX and Edge/Christian. Apollo Crews is the natural heir to the Black Superman steez of Atlas... dude is a legit superhero with a Hollywood smile. Mark Henry has a believable championship run left in him after the Hall of Pain run and increased focus on his powerlifting successes have him some credibility back. Sasha Banks' success in getting over this last couple of years is astounding...Naomi (ok still saddled with an ass-related finisher) doing well. Karma has unfinished business in the E. Jason Jordan is finding success playing a clean cut role where his race doesn't matter in the slightest, which is actually pretty refreshing after a couple of decades of "OOOH LOOK HE'S BLACK, FEEL SOME SORT OF WAY VIEWER" programming.
Nation era to Ron Simmons retirement brought some shine back, but it was a different spin to how you hear Atlas discuss his glory days where "the only colour that mattered was green". The Nation were pushed as heels, playing on white-bred paranoia about powerful black men flexing their physical and political muscles. Despite Olympic pedigree and competition medals falling out of his kitbag, Mark Henry was turned into Sexual Chocolate (the comic-strip sex obsessed black brute) and given bargain basement angles with Mae Young playing off that "But what if your Grandma brought home a big, scary black man, huh?". They pretty much just used race to be divisive compared to the pushes of JYD and Atlas which were intentionally inclusive.
A little beacon of hope in the dark (or not...) days was that APA segment Farooq and Bradshaw did in a bar with the racist rednecks getting their asses beat for repeatedly calling Farooq "darkie"... that was a truly fukking intense and satisfying segment. I remember watching it with my mouth hanging open just begging Simmons to jump over the bar... I don't think *anyone* would have the guts to do that angle on live TV today.
The Rock's success seems to stand alone... after the end of the Nation his blackness was almost never mentioned again unless you already knew his father's work.
It could be argued we're on the cusp of the next golden era tbh... New Day are over as hell for a start; Kofi has struggled as the token for a decade but has retained enough respect to give Big E and Xavier the boosts they need to become the stars they undoubtedly can become. Big E has the build and sweats pure charisma and comic timing.. Xavier has one of the best left-field imaginations I've seen since DX and Edge/Christian. Apollo Crews is the natural heir to the Black Superman steez of Atlas... dude is a legit superhero with a Hollywood smile. Mark Henry has a believable championship run left in him after the Hall of Pain run and increased focus on his powerlifting successes have him some credibility back. Sasha Banks' success in getting over this last couple of years is astounding...Naomi (ok still saddled with an ass-related finisher) doing well. Karma has unfinished business in the E. Jason Jordan is finding success playing a clean cut role where his race doesn't matter in the slightest, which is actually pretty refreshing after a couple of decades of "OOOH LOOK HE'S BLACK, FEEL SOME SORT OF WAY VIEWER" programming.
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Mid 80s Atlas and JYD for sure...JYD was getting major main event pops,it fukkn stinks Vince never put the IC strap on him just once during that run...
I hated what they did to Atlas after him and Rocky split up...he became a muscle bound jobber
I hated what they did to Atlas after him and Rocky split up...he became a muscle bound jobber
Jay Lethal is REAL Legit right now. Add in New Day, Sasha, and Lashley and things are looking up.
You don't care about the dude in NXT?
Andrade Almas
Pro
Just a thought to the moderaters here on the TSC, instead of a Black History Month thread for wrestlers, how about a post a day dedicated to a black wrestler? No troll posts either. Real black wrestlers.