Betsy DeVos Plans to Consult Men’s Rights Trolls About Campus Sexual Assault

88m3

Fast Money & Foreign Objects
Joined
May 21, 2012
Messages
92,011
Reputation
3,841
Daps
164,236
Reppin
Brooklyn
Betsy DeVos Plans to Consult Men’s Rights Trolls About Campus Sexual Assault
By Christina Cauterucci

Education-Secretary-Betsy-DeVos-Testifies-To-Senate-Hearing-On-Budget-Of-Department_1.jpeg.CROP.promo-xlarge2.jpeg

Betsy DeVos.

Getty Images

When Trump nominated Betsy DeVos to lead the Department of Education, anti-rape advocates worried about the damage she might do. The Obama administration had pushed universities to better address sexual assault on their campuses, prescribing stricter guidelines for adjudicating accusations and publishing lists of schools under investigation. DeVos refused to say whether or not she’d uphold that guidance, but the prospects looked grim. She and her family foundation had both donated money to the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, an advocacy group working to undo the progress Obama’s Department of Education had made on campus sexual assault.

CHRISTINA CAUTERUCCI
Christina Cauterucci is a Slatestaff writer.

Now that she’s in office, DeVos has to choose: Will she let the Obama guidance, which lowered the burden of proof required in sexual assault cases, stand? Or will she let schools revert back to their old practices, like forcing victims to sign nondisclosure agreements and letting accusations stand for months—or even years—without taking action?

To help her decide, DeVos is meeting with several organizations that do work on this issue. Victims’ rights organizations, including Know Your IX and the National Women’s Law Center, are on the list. So are a few men’s rights groups that see campus rape as a faux crisis manufactured to demonize and damage men and boys. Politico reported last week that the Department of Education has contacted Stop Abusive and Violent Environments (SAVE), Families Advocating for Campus Equality (FACE), and the National Coalition for Men to set up meetings about the campus sexual assault guidance, which all three organizations oppose.

The National Coalition for Men, as its name implies, is one of the largest, longest-running, and shameless men’s rights organizations out there. It is founded on the belief that domestic violence and sexual assault are widely overreported (in other words, that women regularly invent incidents of these crimes) and that some of the blame often lies with the female victim. President Harry Crouch calls this alleged conspiracy of women, the media, and law enforcement the “men’s violence industry.” The organization has a history of harassing and intimidating alleged sexual-assault survivors, ThinkProgress points out: Chapters have published photos, names, and biographical details of women who have accused men—falsely, the National Coalition for Men insists—of rape. Its members routinely bring lawsuits against women-only networking groups and social events, crying discrimination.

Crouch has argued that women are too rarely held responsible for domestic violence they “instigate.” “I’m not saying he’s a good guy,” Crouch said in 2014 of football player Ray Rice, who knocked out his then-girlfriend in an elevator. “But if she hadn’t aggravated him, she wouldn’t have been hit. They would say that’s blaming the victim. But I don’t buy it.” He also claimed that “if a little person without a penis instigates, she will never be accountable for her actions” and wondered why the NFL can’t “have a week, or just one day, where they celebrate men?” as when the league wears pink jerseys for breast cancer awareness.

The other organizations from which DeVos plans to learn aren’t any better. The Southern Poverty Law Center has identified SAVE, which opposes rules that prevent defense attorneys from entering evidence of a survivor’s sexual history in a rape trial, as a planet in the “manosphere” of misogynist online forums. SAVE lobbies against domestic violence protections, claims that the “leading reason” for abuse is “female initiation of partner violence,” and calls falsely accused perpetrators the “true victims of abuse.” And then there’s FACE, which claims that colleges are expelling innocent students “with increasing frequency” due to made-up accusations. “If the school investigators feel that there is even a slight chance that your accuser might be telling the truth, you will almost certainly be suspended or expelled,” the organization’s site says. “If your accuser had any alcohol at all, you will most likely be expelled.” This is untrue. According to federal data, of 478 sanctions dealt for sexual assault on about 100 U.S. college campuses between 2012 and 2013, just 12 percent were expulsions. That doesn’t include the cases that were dismissed with no sanctions ordered at all.

These are the experts the Secretary of Education is trusting to school her on campus sexual assault: people who lie to advance a worldview of women as pathological liars, who believe women receive unfair preferential treatment in abuse trials, and who think false accusations are the real rape problem. This is a classic case of false balance, because the two sides here do not have equal merit. Meeting with advocates for sexual-assault victims is not the same as meeting with trolls who have made it their lives’ work to defend domestic violence and end women-only happy hours. But as a representative of an administration run by a man with an interest in protecting sexual harrassers, DeVos has every reason to side with the latter.


Betsy DeVos Plans to Consult Men’s Rights Trolls About Campus Sexual Assault



:scust:
 

the cac mamba

Veteran
Bushed
Joined
May 21, 2012
Messages
109,184
Reputation
14,206
Daps
312,307
Reppin
NULL
Now that she’s in office, DeVos has to choose: Will she let the Obama guidance, which lowered the burden of proof required in sexual assault cases, stand?
im sorry, but (and let me preface this with a :jaymad: )

it's unacceptable that a man and a woman can both be drunk, have consensual sex, and the woman can wake up in the morning and ruin the mans life because of 'regret'. as a man im not going to sit around and cry about requiring more proof

and to all the women who actually experience this, which is fukking horrific, you can thank the gloria allreds of the world for making me question what you went through. the bottom line is that there will never be a perfect solution and balance for this problem

so unless i see a proposal included where women who falsely accuse face a mandatory 5 years in prison, cry me a river :camby:
 

re'up

Veteran
Joined
May 26, 2012
Messages
21,196
Reputation
6,553
Daps
66,744
Reppin
San Diego
The probability of someone who isn't engaging in sexual assault, sexual battery, sexual misconduct to be accused of such is near a total delusion, only serves to inflate the ego of the worst kind of men, and make their behavior acceptable. I think it's such a representation of sexism and gender discrimination that this is even a thing. I had a friend say to be in a heated conversation, "yeah, but that's almost all guys", when I directly and rhetorically asked if he'd ever taken advantage of a woman's vulnerability to have sex with her. I know, because I have seen it, we've known each other for half our lives.

Herein, is where I think most guys believe that this is acceptable behavior, and not only normal, but the standard. The belief system they endorse is that you have to "trick" or coerce a woman into having sex with you, and if someone gets hurt, or feels taken advantage, that's on them. I don't know to what extent this mindset actually exists, whether it is the norm or not, but I suspect it is at a minimum, very common.

Like, I can't envision someone ever falsely or otherwise accusing me of rape. Sex is based on mutual consent. It's between two people, not one "getting" it from another. Recently, I have had a girl, more then once, too intoxicated to stay awake laying on me, and I just made sure she was comfortable to sleep, and left her house. That's what you are supposed to do.
 
Top