Biden urged to ban China-made electric vehicles

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Biden urged to ban China-made electric vehicles​

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Mariko Oi,Business reporter

Getty Images Employees work on the assembly line of new energy vehicles at a factory of Chinese EV startup Leapmotor.
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China is the world's biggest producer of cars

President Joe Biden has been urged to ban imports of Chinese-made electric cars to the US.

The chair of the Senate Banking Committee, Senator Sherrod Brown, wrote "Chinese electric vehicles are an existential threat to the American auto industry".

His comments are the strongest yet by any US lawmaker on the issue, while others have called for steep tariffs to keep Chinese electric vehicles (EV) out of the country.

In February, the White House said the US was opening an investigation into whether Chinese cars pose a national security risk.

"We cannot allow China to bring its government-backed cheating to the American auto industry", Senator Brown said in a video on the social media platform X, formerly Twitter.

Senator Brown, who is a Democrat from the the car-producing state of Ohio, is seeking to win a fourth term in office in November's election.

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The White House did not immediately respond to a BBC request for comment.

In February, President Biden said that China's policies "could flood our market with its vehicles, posing risks to our national security" and that he would "not let that happen on my watch."

Washington could impose restrictions over concerns that the technology in Chinese-made cars could "collect large amounts of sensitive data on their drivers and passengers", the White House said.

It warned cars that are connected to the internet "regularly use their cameras and sensors to record detailed information on US infrastructure; interact directly with critical infrastructure; and can be piloted or disabled remotely".

China is the world's largest producer of cars and vying with Japan to be the biggest exporter of vehicles.

The number of Chinese cars on US roads is, however, extremely low due to the fact the latter currently imposes a 27.5% tariff on the vehicles.

This week, while on a trip to China, US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen warned Beijing that Washington would not allow a repeat of the "China shock" of the early 2000s, when Chinese imports flooded into America.

In response, China's vice finance minister, Liao Min, expressed "grave concern" over restrictions the US has imposed on trade and investment.

Mr Liao said China's competitive advantages are due to its "large-scale market, complete industrial system and abundant human resources".

Also on Thursday, America's biggest airlines asked the Biden administration to halt approvals of new flights between the US and China.

In a letter to Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Transportation Department Secretary Pete Buttigieg they said China's “damaging anti-competitive policies” put US carriers at a disadvantage.

“If the growth of the Chinese aviation market is allowed to continue unchecked and without concern for equality of access in the market, flights will continue to be relinquished to Chinese carriers at the expense of US workers and businesses.”

The world's two biggest economies have been locked in a trade war since 2018 when the then-Trump administration imposed tariffs on more than $360bn (£287bn) of Chinese goods.

Beijing retaliated with tariffs on more than $110bn of US products.

President Joe Biden has largely kept those tariffs in place.

Last year the value of goods the US bought from China fell by just over 20% to $427bn. At the same time, US exports to China dipped by 4% to just under $148bn.
 

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The chair of the Senate Banking Committee, Senator Sherrod Brown, wrote "Chinese electric vehicles are an existential threat to the American auto industry".

His comments are the strongest yet by any US lawmaker on the issue, while others have called for steep tariffs to keep Chinese electric vehicles (EV) out of the country.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

But the US has been the biggest proponent of free trade, dismantling tariffs and subsidies etc all over the world

Is the US now promoting protectionist measures lmao?
 

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US is the third largest exporter of vehicles to China. It's not a lot (less than 200k iirc) but worth keeping in mind when debating this. Flip side the amount of Chinese cars exported to the US is much smaller. China exports a shyt ton of cars globally, just not to the US.
 

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shyts funny as hell, because he's being urged to block vehicles but folks damn near rioted over tik tok rotting minds worse than video games and tv.

i'd like a ban tho, i'd rather not have a bunch of EVs under controll of the chinese or subject to exploding
 
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I'd happily park a $9k Chinese EV right next to my Ford Mustang in the garage.

You want to protect the American people? Protect our pockets first.

fukk that clown mentioned in that article, I co-sign the reply.


I buy x5 Chinese Electric vehicles over the next 30 years = 5 x $9,000 = $45k.
I buy the same value/quality American/Japanese EV's over the next 30 years = 5 x $40000 = $200k

I'll save $150k+, as would hundreds of millions of other Americans to grow multiple other industries, so fukk you.

$155k * 200 million drivers = $30,000,000,000,000+ (30+ trillion dollars) back into citizens' hands over that span to spend on non-auto expenses.
That's not good for the entire economy, and not just the niche auto industry?
shyt, if anything people will take the money they save and buy a more expensive car (possibly American).
 
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Washington could impose restrictions over concerns that the technology in Chinese-made cars could "collect large amounts of sensitive data on their drivers and passengers", the White House said.

It warned cars that are connected to the internet "regularly use their cameras and sensors to record detailed information on US infrastructure; interact directly with critical infrastructure; and can be piloted or disabled remotely".


All of this literally applies to Tesla and there is nothing stopping him from selling that information to a Chinese data firm who can sell it to the CCP. I love this ludicrous assumption that billionaires are super patriots that wouldn't sell data to the highest bidder. That somehow a company that treats its own workers like shyt would not sell data of its users for more money.

What you're seeing with stories like this essentially amounts to "we can't compete in price and we used to be able to compete in quality, but we can't do that now either. Why? we need to keep hiring and firing people to pump our stock prices. We don't care about actually making the best product or service more than we care about making money for shareholders. We've been doing that through pure hype and bullshyt announcements for products/services that we actually won't make, or that won't have many of the features we claimed they would."

This is the equivalent of accusing someone of "stealing your moves" when they start absolutely cooking you in a game or sport. China cares about being net zero, so they've given heavy subsidies for EV manufacturing. BYD is taking advantage of that fact and using the money to make superior products instead of just paying investors. A bad business deserves to go under.

Let them compete. If Tesla and others can't beat BYD on price or quality they deserve what they get. The market has spoken. If we are to accept that wages shouldn't be raised and businesses regulated because it would fukk with the free market, then let's go all the way with it and let the stronger product survive.
 

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Oil lobby no doubt behind this.
Chinese gas powered vehicles have computers too
 
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