Big Ross on OG Juan bein the plug in ‘88 and seeing him with Jay-Z a LOT back then

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I used to cop in Harlem - hola, my Dominicanos
Right there up on Broadway, brought me back to that McDonald's
Took it to my stash spot, 560 State Street

Catch me in the kitchen, like a Simmons whippin' pastry
- Jay-Z (Empire State Of Mind)

All that was FACTS

@FreshAIG you see this shyt fam?
 
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I walked right past 560 State Street when I went to the Nets game the other day
 

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Idk why people found it so hard to believe that he was selling bricks back then.. Anybody that hustled in the late 80s early 90s was getting money.. It was a new drug and booming. shyt i had older cousins that was selling bricks and i remember being a young nikka coming in the house and these nikkas counting shyt loads of money on the table, driving range rovers, big jewelry ect..

Every time i see people on this site saying that 92 brick story Hov had was :duck: i automatically knew they either was a cac,knew nothing about that life and was just talking to be talking. If u grew up in that era or seen nikkaz getting money you knew what it was hitting for.
 

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Idk why people found it so hard to believe that he was selling bricks back then.. Anybody that hustled in the late 80s early 90s was getting money.. It was a new drug and booming. shyt i had older cousins that was selling bricks and i remember being a young nikka coming in the house and these nikkas counting shyt loads of money on the table, driving range rovers, big jewelry ect..

Every time i see people on this site saying that 92 brick story Hov had was :duck: i automatically knew they either was a cac,knew nothing about that life and was just talking to be talking. If u grew up in that era or seen nikkaz getting money you knew what it was hitting for.

You dressing it a little bit. Lotta cats made a little paper but it wasn't totally different from subsequent eras, you can't sit here and say everybody was whipping Ranges and had hella jewelry...

What I will say is alota people put they hands on something because shyt was more accessible back then, but everybody wasn't eating on some junior kingpin shyt...
 

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By the way, I'm not from New York, someone gonna have to explain to me who this Big Ross guy is. Not familiar with his story...

As far as Hov though, look I think it's well established he was paper chasing. I think the part that gets debated is exactly how high up the food chain he was, which is natural----->I can tell you alota old heads from that era put extra zeros and commas on what they were holding. The 80s got glamorized and exaggerated like a muhfukka to the later generations who either weren't around or the people who were around but weren't a part of it, and the 90s also gets done this way...

We all know alota people were eating, but cats do put extra on it because nikkas always wanna hype they own generation. Other cats from they era gonna do the same and people from later generations weren't around to challenge them on it...

I'm a big time Jay Z Stan. I'll take him at his own words on two different excerpts from verses:

"I came into this muhfukka 100 grand strong/9 to be exact, from grinding g packs"...

"So don't believe everything your earlobe captures, it's mostly backwards/unless it happens to be as accurate as me/and everything said in song you happen to see, then actually/believe half of what you see/none of what you heard, even if spat by me"...
 

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Idk why people found it so hard to believe that he was selling bricks back then.. Anybody that hustled in the late 80s early 90s was getting money.. It was a new drug and booming. shyt i had older cousins that was selling bricks and i remember being a young nikka coming in the house and these nikkas counting shyt loads of money on the table, driving range rovers, big jewelry ect..

Every time i see people on this site saying that 92 brick story Hov had was :duck: i automatically knew they either was a cac,knew nothing about that life and was just talking to be talking. If u grew up in that era or seen nikkaz getting money you knew what it was hitting for.
Jay didn’t lose 92 bricks that had a different meaning back then from my understanding

If Jay lost 92 bricks he would have died lol
 

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Jay didn’t lose 92 bricks that had a different meaning back then from my understanding

If Jay lost 92 bricks he would have died lol

Jay said he came into the game with $90-100k, that's believable. If you can afford 92 bricks the way we think of bricks in our era that means you had way more than 100 in the shelf...

Had to have a different meaning...
 

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Anyone that has been around, knows what's true and what's not, to a degree. Jay probably did have a few hundred thousand stacked, and so did Biggs, all those guys. It was the height of the crack epidemic in the late 80's, early 90's. The game is different now, back then it was a money train, compared to now.

Jay and his team, probably lost a shipment from St Thomas, or wherever their people were, you could get them for probably under 10k, buying wholesale quantities, straight from Colombia, through traffickers in the Caribbean Even if they paid 15k, imagine 4 hustlers from BK and Harlem, at the top of their game. They put in like 250 each. Maybe Jay put in a 100. Maybe 50k, who knows? They probably went in on the load together. Sometimes the connect and the buyer split the loss. No, Jay did not personally cash out and lose 92 bricks. Say the shipment was lost, and guys lost a lot of money, and trust, so the connect says, look we have a good relationship, I'll send up 30, and you get me back. The money you turn around in just a few days, you are already back up.

I always took that line the same way you did, @murksiderock, but reading it today, I think he meant 900k, which maybe is slightly done up, and maybe not. But, 100k is entirely believable. You never seen real drug money if you think it's not real.
 
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Jay said he came into the game with $90-100k, that's believable. If you can afford 92 bricks the way we think of bricks in our era that means you had way more than 100 in the shelf...

Had to have a different meaning...
Shout out to Jay for having the vision he had to get out the game and create this empire he did.

A lot of dudes just don’t think like that.
 
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