Bill Simmons says he'll take Nash ahead of Iverson

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he went from shooting 38-42% most years in philly to 45-46% in Denver. 46 is more than good enough for that type of player on that era. That’s not inefficient
To be consistent that jump was probably due to rule changes too. The league continued to get more efficient after they REALLY started enforcing hand checking.
 

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Why do y’all rate him so high:mindblown:


They fall for the cac propaganda. AI was playing 41-43mpg per game too....CARRYING TEAMS EVERY fukkING NIGHT....nash never played more than 34.6mpg And didn’t start consistently playinG 30mpg until he was 26 LOL
 

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They fall for the cac propaganda. AI was playing 41-43mpg per game too....CARRYING TEAMS EVERY fukkING NIGHT....nash never played more than 34.6mpg And didn’t start consistently playinG 30mpg until he was 26 LOL

this is the problem.

you don't give enough credit to what the team around Iverson did to help them win.
 

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who the hell was gonna pass the ball on those teams cause it sure as hell wouldnt have been AI :mjlol:


AI averaged 8 dimes one year and has several more years putting up 7dimes. Averaged 6.2 dimes for his career more than MJ and Kobe. You nikkas are dumb as fukk
 

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cause he's one of the best shooters and passers in NBA history


why do yall act like he was Dan dikkau, Jordan Farmer or Steve Blake :mindblown:
What good is being one of the greatest shooters ever if you don't shoot that much. Nash himself admits now that he should've looked to score more. Everybody says Nash "made his teammates better" but pretty much every teammate he's had has had just as good if not better seasons without him. Nash is a great player no doubt. But if starting a team from scratch Nash isn't who I'd start with. I'd want the superstar scorer first and then Nash as my second pick to help setup the number one. With Nash you'd need to surround him with defenders AND scorers. Iverson you'd need to surround him with defenders as he's shown he can carry a team's offense on his back. Nash pretty much his entire career played with at least two 20 point per game scorers.

Also Nash had stamina issues. In the Seven Seconds or Less book they talked about having to limit his minutes or he'd wear down while AI played 41 minutes a game for his career basically.
 

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He had a decent team around him but AI was carrying heavy loads.....a man plays 43mpg for a full season and you don’t give him credit THATS the problem

Heavy OFFENSIVE loads, sure.

Defensively the Sixers were elite around him and were one of the best rebounding teams in the league. That's not just decent, it's probably the best supporting cast in the Eastern Conference around a star at the time. Elite defensive support around a superstar creator > terrible defensive support and a bunch of guys that are stars in isolation, but overlap in abilities.
 

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who was his competition en route to the NBA Finals. I don't really get why Iverson making the finals is something that reflects solely on his abilities and never the team and the league circumstances at that time.

Nash's early injury struggles were the reason for his slow start. Not ability. If you want to choose Iverson because you think he's more durable, fine. But Nash in his prime has a great case as being a better player than Iverson off the strength of his historically great playmaking and creation efficiency.

People overlook that in Phoenix the medical staff helped to rejuvenate his health. It's not that MDA made him into anything. The situation in general was good for his career.

this is their careers in a nutshell

Steve Nash: arguable the best passer and maybe only behind Curry as the best shooter ever with 4 50-54-90 seasons
Iverson: led a teams with all the individual achievements to the Finals with horrible officiating helping them along the way... and change the way we dress
 
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