Black Americans, Lets talk about Lyndon B. Johnson

Ronald McDonald

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Passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1964
Signed the Voting Rights Act of 1965
Did the "most" for black folks out of any US president
so was he a champion of racial equality?

or just further proof that all cacs are manipulative and inherently? :sas1:



On the 1957 Civil Rights bill

These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don't move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there'll be no way of stopping them, we'll lose the filibuster and there'll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It'll be Reconstruction all over again." :leon:

On MLK's giving his April 1967 speech condemning the Vietnam War

In the last year of his life, King actually became the source of much official derision, particularly after his public denunciation--at the Riverside Church in Harlem in April 1967--of the war in Vietnam. King, breaking with many of the more timid civil rights leaders, spoke out forcefully against what he called, "the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today: my own government."
Did the liberal Democratic Party establishment leap to King's defense? Did they praise his courage?

Not exactly. Consider the reaction to the speech by then-President Lyndon Johnson, who fumed in the Oval Office: "That goddamn ****** preacher may drive me out of the White House." :beli:

On his black chauffer
Robert Parker, Johnson’s sometime chauffer, described in his memoir Capitol Hill in Black and White a moment when Johnson asked Parker whether he’d prefer to be referred to by his name rather than “boy,” “******” or “chief.” When Parker said he would, Johnson grew angry and said, “As long as you are black, and you’re gonna be black till the day you die, no one’s gonna call you by your goddamn name. So no matter what you are called, ******, you just let it roll off your back like water, and you’ll make it. Just pretend you’re a goddamn piece of furniture.”

After Johnson’s death, Parker would reflect on the Johnson who championed the landmark civil rights bills that formally ended American apartheid, and write, “I loved that Lyndon Johnson.” Then he remembered the president who called him a ******, and he wrote, “I hated that Lyndon Johnson.”

There's also another quote claiming that his reasoning behind passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was that he would "have the ******s voting Democrat for the next 200 years." but i can only seem to find that one on conservative bias websites so ima leave that out.

Do you believe he actually said any of this? and if so, was he just a man of his time? No way this should take away all he did in getting rid of Jim Crow laws, passing civil rights legislature, etc. right? or did he have ulterior motives in doing so? as implied in the above quote? discuss

this might need to be moved to higher learning :patrice:
 

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or just further proof that all cacs are manipulative and inherently? :sas1:
There is no proof of that because it's biologically impossible.
I could give you a million examples of people of any race including blacks committing horrific and positive actions.
How about you admit you just want to view in black and whites instead of actually using your brain and thinking?
 

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He is the modern Democrat's hero, believe it or not. You've got to admit, we give the Democrats 95+% of that vote nonstop. He might have been on to something with that quote. And it's never been disproven that said it. The other ones, it's my first time hearing of them.

To dismiss these quotes because he was a product of the times is a little disturbing to me. He is basically stating something that, for better or worse, is a cornerstone of current politics when it comes to our community. he used harsher language so people will respond to that more quickly. But what part of what he stated didn't come to fruition? He almost makes it come across as some huge plot. But we all know people who think like that wear tin foil hats, right?

The Emancipation Proclamation was a product of polltical motivation as well. Honest Abe wasn't a real fan of ours. He was under pressure to quell that Civil War.
 

Ronald McDonald

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There is no proof of that because it's biologically impossible.
I could give you a million examples of people of any race including blacks committing horrific and positive actions.
How about you admit you just want to view in black and whites instead of actually using your brain and thinking?

either contribute to the topic at hand or fuk off cac.
 

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The people who really have our best interests in mind aren't in a position to do so. Politicians have the strings of puppets in their hands and we as minorities have to deal with the lesser of two evils, less the occasional somewhat uncorrupted newcomer.
 

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I am contributing to the post though.
Aren't I directly responding to a line of yours :ohhh:

to be serious i was only trolling with what you originally quoted. now fuk out my thread with your deflection cactics.
 

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He took credit for all the work JFK had already done after he got shot and killed.

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His brother RFK

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:what: JFK did his best ignore a black folk problems during his presidency. He was too busy trying to appease the Reps buy going hard on comunism; they didnt like him cuz he was a real American (catholic irish). So he was not going to touch nikkas, not when the South Democrats were watching. It wasn't until brother Martin became a national figure that JFK became associated with CR, he dikk rode MLK but with words only "this is wrong guys..freedom..."

His brother Bobby was the one who was about that life. LBJ used JFKs death, among other things, to pass the CR bill..... He made JFK the man we "know". If JFK didn't get got the CR bill won't have passed and we would have went in Vietnam earlier.


JFK didn't give a fukk about us:pachaha:
 
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