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Republicans are in power because they successfully painted the picture that Democrats were becoming too radical with progressive ideas: with their support of transgenders, use of pronouns, wanting open borders, illegals getting benefits in Chicago and New York that regular citizens were not getting, images of college campuses being destroyed and people harassed because of Gaza. Ads during primitive NFL games in which Harris is shown as supporting transgender operations for prisoners (something she denied saying the debate), Biden tweeting that transgender rights is the civil right issue of this era. shyt like that is a turn-off to the average everyday citizen.


How about Bernie didn't have the political saviness to win over voters. Trump certainly was not the first choice of the Republican party when he first announced running for president. Establishment Republicans like Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham, fought him tooth and nail until they realized they couldn't stop his momentum. Hell, his Trump's current vice president called him a Nazi back then. How was Trump able to overcome all of that and Bernie can't? Must be what he was saying didn't resonate with enough people.

We will see if Mamdani can overcome all obstacles.
You’re policing my point, and republicans are right. The democrats don’t want to upset their corporate donor base by advocating for taxing the rich, higher wages, universal healthcare etc so they push (degenerate not progressive) policies like transgenderism and open borders.

Bernie didnt have the “political savviness” but Hilary Clinton did?:heh:
They chose Hilary Clinton who is one of the worst candidates of all time. 2016 Bernie had a much better chance of defeating trump than Hilary.

Once again, trumps victory was a direct result of the democrats failures. A monkey could have beaten 2016 trump
 

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You’re policing my point, and republicans are right. The democrats don’t want to upset their corporate donor base by advocating for taxing the rich, higher wages, universal healthcare etc so they push (degenerate not progressive) policies like transgenderism and open borders.

Bernie didnt have the “political savviness” but Hilary Clinton did?:heh:
They chose Hilary Clinton who is one of the worst candidates of all time. 2016 Bernie had a much better chance of defeating trump than Hilary.

Once again, trumps victory was a direct result of the democrats failures. A monkey could have beaten 2016 trump
Then why didn't Bernie beat Hillary? Trump beat Rubio, Cruz Jeb Bush (who was supposed to have next) without the help of the Republican establishment. When Trump got the nomination, Republicans locked in behind their nominee and supported him no matter what. Bernie Bros cried ahd said they weren't voting, voting for Jill Stein, or voting for Trump to spite Hillary. Hell, in 2008, it was Hillary's turn, but Obama came through with charisma and poise and snatched that nomination from Hillary.

Dont know if you know, transgenders, citizen status for illegals, are seen as progressive issues too. Harris did have increased taxes for the rich on her platform, increased wages, and Medicaid expansion, but those policies got drowned out for her refusal to disavow trannys in women sports and address the immigration problem. I've not seen or heard any voters on the internet or real life say they refused to vote Democrat because they dont want to tax the rich or won't support universal healthcare, nor have I seen any polls indicating as such. You know what I have seen and heard if plenty? Democrats support of transgenders, open borders, and refusal to stop support of Israel due to Gaza (anger from the Muslim community).

Want a progressive to be president? Find one with charisma who can sell the American people on his policies. Dont expect an automatic handout/backing from the establishment. If Obama and Trump can do it, that shows it can be done.
 

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DIDNT THE HEADS OF THE DNC FORCE BERNIE TO STEP DOWN IN FAVOR OF HILLARY THO?!!? :what:
The RNC did not want Trump to get the nomination in 2016. How did he get it?

The DNC wanted Hillary in 2008. How did Obama get the nomination?

No matter how much you want it to be true, the DNC and RNC does not control how people vote. They can have their preference and put money/support behind him/her, but if the people don't want that candidate, nothing they can do.
 

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The RNC did not want Trump to get the nomination in 2016. How did he get it?

The DNC wanted Hillary in 2008. How did Obama get the nomination?

No matter how much you want it to be true, the DNC and RNC does not control how people vote. They can have their preference and put money/support behind him/her, but if the people don't want that candidate, nothing they can do.

They dont but who told bernie to step down?!? :childplease: :childplease: :childplease: its simple mathematics bruh... everyone here knows what happened...
 

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They dont but who told bernie to step down?!? :childplease: :childplease: :childplease: its simple mathematics bruh... everyone here knows what happened...
Yes, we know what happened. Hillary won more primaries than Bernie, got 3 million more votes than he did, and 359 more pledged delegates. The mathematics showed that Bernie could not win after the major primaries were over. Yes, leaked emails showed that the DNC favored Hillary and put her in a better position to win. But people still had to get off their asses and go vote for her. And that is what happened. More people voted for Hillary than Bernie. To use your word again "simple mathematics."

The establishment wanted Cuomo over Mamdani in the NYC mayor primary. How in the world did Mamdani win the primary over the all mighty estsbliment's wishes? Why it was the will of the people! Wake up son.
 

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Yes, we know what happened. Hillary won more primaries than Bernie, got 3 million more votes than he did, and 359 more pledged delegates. The mathematics showed that Bernie could not win after the major primaries were over. Yes, leaked emails showed that the DNC favored Hillary and put her in a better position to win. But people still had to get off their asses and go vote for her. And that is what happened. More people voted for Hillary than Bernie. To use your word again "simple mathematics."

The establishment wanted Cuomo over Mamdani in the NYC mayor primary. How in the world did Mamdani win the primary over the all mighty estsbliment's wishes? Why it was the will of the people! Wake up son.

Aight whatever you say bruh... Hillary was winning so much she lawst...:mjlol:
 
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