I had a hunch the CNN articles title was misleading. Always trying to make FBAs the face of everything with this flat blackness crap.Only between 9% and 13% of black American 18- and 19-year-olds are immigrants or come from immigrant families. But one long-term study cited by Tough shows that at “highly selective private colleges,…students from black immigrant families plus students with one black and nonblack parent [rose] from about 40 percent of black students in the 1980s…to about 60 percent in the late 1990s.”
The harsh truth about black enrollment at America’s elite colleges
The Ivy League and others talk a good game but look at who they admit Who is allowed to enter Harvard as a student? Getty Images The police killing of George Floyd and the Black Lives Matter protests that followed have prompted much soul searching and re-examination of racial attitudes and...
Yall hate numbers on this topic. Too bad we couldn't get yall to care before 2023.
Black enrollment is waning at many elite colleges after affirmative action ban
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HarlemHottie
Uptown Thoroughbred
I'm seeing this a lot lately. The scary part is, I don't even think they realize it. I'm not being funny, I mean that. It affects political will.
His sentiment is why we could never get anybody to care before all this mess with Trump. Grown bp have been thinking this the whole time.
HarlemHottie
Uptown Thoroughbred
They're not lying. Technically, 'we all black.'
As long as they've been using this playbook. You would think they would've found a new tactic by now.They're not lying. Technically, 'we all black.'
If he's telling the truth then how do you explain the decline of black admission to elite institutions and corporate roles after affirmative action ban
Elite level smart dumb nikka logic
HarlemHottie
Uptown Thoroughbred
Nobody cared until it was way too late, esp for FBA. I been talking about this since I joined the coli.
RamsayBolton
Superstar
they pretty much pressed reset on the whole shyt. now we get to spend decades proving we're faced with challenges that make it harder for Black students to find success to the point where systems need to be changed/make accommodations
again
HarlemHottie
Uptown Thoroughbred
Until you figure out what REALLY happened, there is no chance for us to win that fight.I literally quoted the stats in this thread: the 'black' population at elite PWI's was rising, yet FBA numbers were falling, replaced by black immigrants or biracials. Combined, monoracial FBA's were down to 40% of the population by the 90's. (I put it in bold bc ppl keep skipping over it, very strange, like a sudden blindness.)
We lost it for the very reason you suggest: those "black students" were apparently no longer in need of "accommodations." It gave them the exact excuse they needed. The right has been talking about it for a while now. It poisoned the whole basis of affirmative action. Why do yall not see this? They didn't wanna give it in the first place and we gave them the perfect excuse, allowing ourselves to be replaced by ppl who WERE NOT descendants of American slaves, to whom they made the original promise.
The same people that make this claim and treat politics like a joke are also the first to complain about the state of the economy when inflation hits their pocket or the job market affects them personally or their tap water is no longer safe to drink (see flint) or their roads are full of pot holes etc
There isn't a single aspect or institution on this planet that isn't affected by or related to politics
Bunchy Carter
I'll Take The Money Over The Honey
No. I graduated from an HBCU and I am doing well. I know and I see multiple FBAs who graduated from HBCU's and are successful.
We just came back from the Las Vegas HBCU Classic, where Grambling, my alma mater, beat Jackson St. While at the game I met multiple successful FBAs from both Grambling St. and Jackson St, who flew and drove to Las Vegas from multiple parts of the United States:
The perception that FBAs have to graduate from a PWI is a lie. I know more unsuccessful Black people who graduated from PWI's more than HBCUs.
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Superstar
Let me provide some context to this thread
I'm a CFO for a school at a top 10 institution
I have many family members who have graduated from HBCUs (A&T, Lincoln, Shaw, Cheyney, Clark, Hampton, Howard, etc...)
As a CFO, I am actively involved in reviewing recruiting, admissions and enrollment metrics...
FBA, we have a problem at the undergrad level due to the overturning of AA in admissions
The saving grace is you have a better likelihood of getting admitted into grad school at a good to elite institution
I'm a CFO for a school at a top 10 institution
I have many family members who have graduated from HBCUs (A&T, Lincoln, Shaw, Cheyney, Clark, Hampton, Howard, etc...)
As a CFO, I am actively involved in reviewing recruiting, admissions and enrollment metrics...
FBA, we have a problem at the undergrad level due to the overturning of AA in admissions
The saving grace is you have a better likelihood of getting admitted into grad school at a good to elite institution
HarlemHottie
Uptown Thoroughbred
Are those ppl in the room with us rn?It's not ME treating politics like a joke, its YALL. Our post CRM ancestors would have never accepted the shyt 'we' accepted from Clinton, Obama, and Biden. They lucky as hell 'we are not our ancestors.'
Yall some go along to get along ass nikkas. 'Well, uh, a rising tide DO lift all boats' type nikkas. "Black and brown" coalition ass nikkas. And the most pertinent and the most damning on this topic, 'We ALL black' ass nikkas. It's legit disgusting.
HarlemHottie
Uptown Thoroughbred
Yes, ty, we realize that, some of us later than others.
My question is, are they being replaced by those black students who don't need "protections' and "accommodations"?
If so, how can we go about properly targeting the necessary help before we even get to ug?
