Black Panthet putting Doom's racist ass in his place appreciation Thread

[Birnin Zana]

To a man who was tired of killing.?

T'Challa literally observed that world for days. He knew who was there and what superheroes lived in it. He also knew what the bombs were and why they built them in the first place. Are we supposed to believe that this smart man, a former head of state, who has a detailed history of thinking many steps ahead, really didn't think that he may have to use the bombs blow up a habitable world?

If he left the illuminati and tried solving the problem his own way using other resources and failed, I wouldn't be mad at all. But going with the bomb idea with the illuminati, only to change his mind at the last minute over something he clearly should've seen coming was super wack imho. I ended up having very little sympathy for him in that scan.

But ultimately, all that is on Hickman, who wrote the issue and designed the whole story arc.

 

[Birnin Zana]

If Hickman "likes" T'Challa by emasculating him, turning him into a traitor to his country by harboring the man who flooded his nation, breaking up his marriage, and turning him into crying fukking Freeman then George Washington fukking LOVED his slaves, who he raped, beat, and murdered...

Unfortunately, Hickman liking the character doesn't matter much when a lot of his decisions concerning T'Challa look reaaall funny in the light. It's extremely hard to ignore them. And its obvious he has clear favorites (Reed, Doom, and FF characters).

T'Challa's journey for the Hickman run simply wasn't worth it, imo. Now, we are stuck hoping that Coates, not Hickman, gives the payoff that is long overdue. That says a lot.

 

[Birnin Zana]

we in here

Funny thing is, the last thing I would consider Hudlin is a Coli militant, or even a militant at all.

 

[Primetime]

Not liking the marriage is fine, but the bold is just false, breh. They clearly have history.

They first met back as kids in Marvel Team Up in the '80s.

Then they meet again in the same story as adults...

In the same story, they allude to the obvious "what if..."

Then, Christopher Priest, in his highly acclaimed run, expanded their initial encounter in his BP run.

Also, T'Challa was acting a fool in the Sturm Und Drang story, so his ppls hit up Storm to help him straighten himself out.

Which led to this romantic moment....

As one can see, the seeds of them being together has BEEN there. Both characters HAVE having history together, as recently by Priest, who brought it back up in the first place.

No, it didn't come out of nowhere.

No, it wasn't some nonsensical bs.

And most definitely no, they weren't put together simply because they were black / Africans.

Nothing wrong with not liking the marriage in general or how it was done, but this supposed "fact" has been used by many detractors of the relationship between both characters, when its absolutely NOT true.

Excellent post.

The poetic setup and pay off of

T'Challa: "Am I to kiss you now?"

Ororo: "If that is your way..."

When they were kids and reuniting as adults to drop the same line on each other but follow through with it...

That should be an iconic moment, a movie moment. Flawless in execution.

 

[godkiller]

You should change the title. Make "Black Panthet" into "Black Panther" and add DC (or whatever company this is ) so people don't think this thread is a joke.@YeLovesBoston

Doom the GOAT villian though

Is this from the new black panther with Taneshi Coates writing?

Doom is the GOAT intellectually inclined villian. It is apropos he would also be racist. It's realism. If Coates did write this this blurb, it would also be apropos to include allusions perhaps to Egypt? Or does Wakanda stand on its own?

 

[Primetime]

Yea I'm real iffy about it. And its apparently a branch of his elite bodyguards pushing the strife (not spoilers, btw. This was announced this week). Which says a lot, considering how loyal they usually are to him.

I'll give Coates a chance, most def. But I'm cautiously optimistic on this one.

To be perfectly honest I find the whole premise of Coates' upcoming book to be boring. I want 3 things from a Black Panther book at this point: (1) standardized/upgraded abilities and tech (2) tapping into that James Bond side of him when it comes to love interests (3) revamping his rogue gallery to be "Marvel" villains that are threats to everyone, like how Dr. Doom and Red Skull are, and puts him at center stage of the MU.
But the whole.. "civil unrest"... "dora milaje betrayal"... "doubting T'Challa as ruler"...

We've been there done that too many times already.

Plus I felt they should've gone with his civil war costume design to capitalize off the hype and look; that should've been the new standard moving forward.

 

[Birnin Zana]

Excellent post.

The poetic setup and pay off of

T'Challa: "Am I to kiss you now?"

Ororo: "If that is your way..."

When they were kids and reuniting as adults to drop the same line on each other but follow through with it...

That should be an iconic moment, a movie moment. Flawless in execution.

Those Storm movie rights breh. Damned movie rights

Sidenote: You know, the more I see that "They were together only because they were black" bs, the more I'm starting to think that A LOT of people simply didn't read the Priest run, and that the Hudlin run was their introduction to not only T'Challa and Ororo possibly being together, but dare I say T'Challa himself.

Not liking the marriage is one thing, but there is no way one can say the idea came out of nowhere if they read that run. That just doesn't make sense.

Then again, its not that surprising. The sales for the issues in which Storm was in the Priest run didn't even break 23K. Despite Priest writing arguably his best story (and for sure my favorite BP story) Sturm Und Drang, the comic book readership wasn't fukking with it like that. In fact, from that point on, he never went above 23K again. Low sales for the rest of the run. And this is despite Priest's great writing and him pandering to the readership over and over again.

 

[Gab]

its a fukin comic, calm down everyone

 

[Birnin Zana]

To be perfectly honest I find the whole premise of Coates' upcoming book to be boring. I want 3 things from a Black Panther book at this point: (1) standardized/upgraded abilities and tech (2) tapping into that James Bond side of him when it comes to love interests (3) revamping his rogue gallery to be "Marvel" villains that are threats to everyone, like how Dr. Doom and Red Skull are, and puts him at center stage of the MU.
But the whole.. "civil unrest"... "dora milaje betrayal"... "doubting T'Challa as ruler"...

We've been there done that too many times already.

Plus I felt they should've gone with his civil war costume design to capitalize off the hype and look; that should've been the new standard moving forward.

I agree, when I first heard of the civil unrest, I was like . shyt has been done many times over, as recently as Mayberry's run.

Now we are learning that is some of the Dora Milaje (Midnight Angels Specifically) are making it happen. Coates better have a hell of an explanation for that one, as we all know they are fiercely loyal to him. Only time they ever turned on him is when he pulled some treacherous shyt by hiding Namor in the Wakandan Necropolis while Wakanda was at war with Atlantis.

With that said, if Coates plays it write, it can work out for the best. I remember @Ziggiy mentioning that (and I'm paraphrasing) that it can be some sort of a litmus test on T'Challa previous actions and decision on the previous runs. If done properly, this can mend the fences between the fan base, allow T'Challa acknowledge those decisions directly to his people and loved ones, and finally be able to move on from everything and give him and his mythos the long awaited payoff, while fighting and (hopefully) clearly defeating the enemy.

It's only two months away, so we'll see what happens soon.

 

[Birnin Zana]

its a fukin comic, calm down everyone

LOL, we cool. I promise you, this is nothing compared to the reaction the general comic book fan base had not just for the scans in the OP, but the entire Hudlin run.

shyt was crazy and got mad racial. It really opened my eyes on how racist good amount of comic book fans can get.