Bottom line....Its always the streets that have the final say so...Not blogs and messageboards.

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If messageboards dictated anything, Jedi Mind Tricks, MURS, Evidence and Immortal Technique would be the most popular rappers in the game and MF Doom and Madlib would be as big as Kanye West.
The streets always have the final say so. Cars Riding By With The Booming System has always been the biggest voice when it comes to who's really hot in the streets. If it was playing on the Gun Hill strip in the Bronx...or the 145th strip in Harlem. Not to be confused with barbershop talk, Whatever got heavy play in the streets was always the final say so....and its been that way since as far back as I can remember in the 80's.

I say this because of all the talk towards Drake in Blackface/Drake dont write his raps that are currently present on urban Blogs and urban Messageboards has not stopped Drakes momentum in the streets. And this is me not caping for Drake...I'm just using Drake as an example. I'll even flip it on the other side. Azealia Banks is my favorite rapper from this decade. But I'm very well aware that her music gets no play in the streets. The same with Saigon...Saigon was my #1 last decade but aside from Pain In My Life playing on Hot 97....The streets wasnt really bumping Saigon like that. But on the flip side I really dont fukk with Futures music like that but I'm well aware that every since "Tony Montana" Future has been heavy in the streets. A lot of Mumble Mouth rap is currently heavy in the streets as well. Thats me being unbiased and realistic.
 
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I'm not gonna argue necessarily, it's true... BUT the blogs need to give a lot of listeners validation (hipsters, who buy a high percentage of the music sold these days) before they go all in to an artist now. Cause let's be real, the whole problem since the internet took over is that a lot of people stopped buying music (the streets) while a lot of hipsters got into it. That's where the streets lost hold. You've got Post Malone with two albums in the top 10 though :francis: like how does that happen. He's a straight product of blogs... these college kids are quietly fukkin up the game - they outnumber the streets in buying music and going to festivals/shows.

Sidenote: Didn't know you fukk with Azealia Banks like that smh :picard:
 

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I'm not gonna argue necessarily, it's true... BUT the blogs need to give a lot of listeners validation (hipsters, who buy a high percentage of the music sold these days) before they go all in to an artist now. Cause let's be real, the whole problem since the internet took over is that a lot of people stopped buying music (the streets) while a lot of hipsters got into it. That's where the streets lost hold. You've got Post Malone with two albums in the top 10 though :francis: like how does that happen. He's a straight product of blogs... these college kids are quietly fukkin up the game - they outnumber the streets in buying music and going to festivals/shows.

Sidenote: Didn't know you fukk with Azealia Banks like that smh :picard:


I think Post malone is a bad example homie.

In 1991 Marky Mark was everywhere and Big Daddy kane was getting no airplay. Beastie Boys stayed going platinum in the 90's but the hood wasnt fukking with that. Linkin Park did raps. I dont even have to mention Eminem who is teh biggest selling raper of all time. Post malone is not a good example because white rap that wasnt on the level of what black rappers were doing always got a bigger push
 

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be a grown man, and worry about whats poppin in the streets brehs.. :shaq2:



Are u saying there's an age limit for listening to Hip Hop? :what:


Are you saying I should shut my ears when I'm at a BBQ listening to the current music blasting? :camby:



My dude....its one thing to not like me...but dont say shyt that doesnt make sense just because u dont like me.
 

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I think Post malone is a bad example homie.

In 1991 Marky Mark was everywhere and Big Daddy kane was getting no airplay. Beastie Boys stayed going platinum in the 90's but the hood wasnt fukking with that. Linkin Park did raps. I dont even have to mention Eminem who is teh biggest selling raper of all time. Post malone is not a good example because white rap that wasnt on the level of what black rappers were doing always got a bigger push
Post is a very bad example. He doesn’t dictate culture or create waves. He’s basically pop music and exist in another realm of the actual culture
 

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Drake is not poppin in the streets he started commercial and has been in that lane ever since, over course some of it will bleed out to the streets here and there but not comprable to someone like Future who started as a street movement then became commercially successful but is still played in the hood
 

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Drake is not poppin in the streets he started commercial and has been in that lane ever since, over course some of it will bleed out to the streets here and there but not comprable to someone like Future who started as a street movement then became commercially successful but is still played in the hood


My dude. Drake been popping in the streets since 2009. U looking funny saying otherwise. I had to explain to another poster that "Crew Love" was an album cut...not a single and the streets was bumping that song heavy late 2011/early 2012.....By the time they finally did release it as a single the song was old.

Now I hear what u are saying about "street movement" but I'm not talking about that.....I'm talking about what the streets stay bumping. You see what u fail to acknowledge is that Drake is R&Bish...and R&B always got love in the streets. Thats why The Weekend is also heavy in the streets.
 

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Drake is not poppin in the streets he started commercial and has been in that lane ever since, over course some of it will bleed out to the streets here and there but not comprable to someone like Future who started as a street movement then became commercially successful but is still played in the hood

Not true, Drake has always songs that loved in the streets. He always had a ear for it and always delivered on that front.

Yes, Indeed is the biggest song in the streets right now
 

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I think Post malone is a bad example homie.

In 1991 Marky Mark was everywhere and Big Daddy kane was getting no airplay. Beastie Boys stayed going platinum in the 90's but the hood wasnt fukking with that. Linkin Park did raps. I dont even have to mention Eminem who is teh biggest selling raper of all time. Post malone is not a good example because white rap that wasnt on the level of what black rappers were doing always got a bigger push

Post is a very bad example. He doesn’t dictate culture or create waves. He’s basically pop music and exist in another realm of the actual culture
Post Malone is the perfect example of what the streets dictate compared to what is actually selling. We're not talking about their influence on the culture, we're talking about what's "hot".

I thought we were talking about the streets dictating whats hot in hip-hop. How is it hot if the streets are only buying a fraction of the records? If Marky Mark goes platinum and Big Daddy Kane doesn't even go gold, how much was the street really dictating? Before there were blogs there were magazines and radio. Marky Mark, Eminem and all them sold millions of records. Saigon was hot in the streets and didn't even go brick when he came out 10 years later. Look at the list of the top selling artists... don't tell me that's street driven.
 

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Post Malone is the perfect example of what the streets dictate compared to what is actually selling. We're not talking about their influence on the culture, we're talking about what's "hot".

I thought we were talking about the streets dictating whats hot in hip-hop. How is it hot if the streets are only buying a fraction of the records? If Marky Mark goes platinum and Big Daddy Kane doesn't even go gold, how much was the street really dictating? Before there were blogs there were magazines and radio. Marky Mark, Eminem and all them sold millions of records. Saigon was hot in the streets and didn't even go brick when he came out 10 years later. Look at the list of the top selling artists... don't tell me that's street driven.
What’s hot doesn’t equal biggest sellers in Hiphop. Never has, never will

What’s hot has always a been what people in tuned with the culture are bumping, what people are turning up to, what’s being played at get togethers, cook outs, etc
 
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Are u saying there's an age limit for listening to Hip Hop? :what:


Are you saying I should shut my ears when I'm at a BBQ listening to the current music blasting? :camby:



My dude....its one thing to not like me...but dont say shyt that doesnt make sense just because u dont like me.

"i wanna know what my nephews n'em bumpin at the BBQ.. :sadbron:"

grown ass man, out here worrying about whats poppin in the streets.. :hhh:

alert: these young cats out here nowadays, dont give a fukk what you got to say.. or what you think dictates anything.. out here shaking your fist at the sky.. @West Coast Avenger come get your people, man.. :mjlol:
 

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Post Malone is the perfect example of what the streets dictate compared to what is actually selling. We're not talking about their influence on the culture, we're talking about what's "hot".

I thought we were talking about the streets dictating whats hot in hip-hop. How is it hot if the streets are only buying a fraction of the records? If Marky Mark goes platinum and Big Daddy Kane doesn't even go gold, how much was the street really dictating? Before there were blogs there were magazines and radio. Marky Mark, Eminem and all them sold millions of records. Saigon was hot in the streets and didn't even go brick when he came out 10 years later. Look at the list of the top selling artists... don't tell me that's street driven.


This is so off. I dont even know why @hex would co sign this.

sales never dicated whats hot in the streets my dude. Nobody gave a shyt about sales in the 88 when Biz Markie was coming out of car systems in Harlem.



Hot Nikka by Bobby Shmurda was hot in the streets and radio wasnt even playing it. Matter fact...Hot 97 couldnt play it because dude wasnt signed..instead they played the French Montana remix. :scust:

Spring 14..Hot Nikka is the hottest song in the streets and Hot 97 was playing Fancy by Iggy Azealia instead. After he got signed they started playing Hot Nikak all late by Fall 14.

Also...the mixtape movement that was heavy in the 2000's contradicts everything u said. Those Gangster Grillz were heavy in the streets and they came in the form of bootlegs.




My dude. For the record....I do remember the kids late last year going "Like a Rockstaaaaar".......I mean 21 savage was on that track. 21 Savage is hot in the streets.
 

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Post Malone is the perfect example of what the streets dictate compared to what is actually selling. We're not talking about their influence on the culture, we're talking about what's "hot".

I thought we were talking about the streets dictating whats hot in hip-hop. How is it hot if the streets are only buying a fraction of the records? If Marky Mark goes platinum and Big Daddy Kane doesn't even go gold, how much was the street really dictating? Before there were blogs there were magazines and radio. Marky Mark, Eminem and all them sold millions of records. Saigon was hot in the streets and didn't even go brick when he came out 10 years later. Look at the list of the top selling artists... don't tell me that's street driven.

This! People don't understand this. The streets can bump whatever all day long but the top selling artists in rap barely get play in the streets like that these days.

Kendrick
J cole
Big Sean
Eminem
Logic
G eazy

Post malone who has had 2 CD in the top 10 for the past month and 1 in the top 10 for the past 2 years is not heard in the streets.

Nobody in the streets are listening to Ye who has his 8th number 1 album.

The streets matter to those who care about the streets.

It's so many lanes in hip hop its ridiculous
 
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