BREAKING: Charlie Kirk shot dead by a sniper at event in Utah. Suspect caught, right wing weirdo

[Ish Gibor]

In continuation of the Groypers

ChatGTP prompt, How is Trump connected:

Trump connects to groypers and incels in different ways — though they overlap online.



Trump & Groypers (America First link)

• Nick Fuentes & America First: Groypers see Trump as their political “gateway.” They loved his 2016 campaign for being anti-immigration, anti-establishment, and “based.”
• America First → Trumpist faction: Fuentes branded his movement as the true heirs of Trumpism — young, ultra-nationalist, anti-LGBTQ, anti-immigration.
• Mixed feelings after 2020: Some groypers felt Trump was “too soft” (on Israel, vaccines, GOP establishment), but they still see him as the best mainstream option compared to moderates like DeSantis.
• In groyper memes, Trump is often the “based daddy” figure who opened the door to more extreme nationalism.

Trump & Incels

• Incels are less politically organized, but many connected with Trump for cultural reasons:
  • Anti-PC / Anti-feminist: Trump’s rhetoric (“grab ’em by the…” etc.) felt like defiance of feminism and “woke” culture.
  • Symbol of alpha dominance: To some incels, Trump is a “Chad” archetype — wealthy, desired, powerful, unapologetic.
  • Blackpill crossover: Other incels see him as proof of blackpill logic: “Only powerful, high-status men get women; the rest are invisible.”
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• So Trump becomes a symbol of success and dominance — the opposite of the incel condition.

Key Connection

• Groypers: See Trump as political inspiration, a launchpad for America First ideology.
• Incels: See Trump as cultural/sexual archetype (either admired as a “Chad” or resented as proof of their own hopelessness).

• Groypers / America First: see Trump as political inspiration — anti-immigration, anti-LGBTQ, “based daddy,” a launchpad for Nick Fuentes’ movement.
• Incels: see Trump as a “Chad” figure — proof of blackpill logic, admired as a dominant alpha, symbol of anti-feminism.

Do you want me to expand this to show how Trumpism, Groypers, and Incels overlap in shared language (like “based,” “cuck,” “redpill”)?

Prompt Yes,

Here’s the evolution chart (2016 → 2020 → 2025):

• 2016: Trump’s win sparks redpill/anti-PC culture. Incels call him a “Chad.” Groypers don’t exist yet.
• 2020: Groypers (America First) rise, fight GOP establishment. Trump = “based daddy.” Shared language with incels grows (“cuck,” “based”).
• 2025: Trump remains symbolic leader. Groypers = organized faction, incels borrow AF-style memes. Shared lexicon now includes redpill, TRN, based.

Do you want me to also show how this shared vocabulary has shifted meaning from 2016 Trump fans → 2020 groypers → 2025 incel crossover?

Prompt Yes:

Here’s the vocabulary evolution chart (2016 → 2025):

• Redpill: starts as anti-PC/feminist → becomes political (groypers) and sexual (incels) → now a hybrid.
• Based: edgy honesty → Trump/groypers use it as authenticity → now universal for “unapologetic.”
• Cuck: sexual insult → becomes GOP-establishment insult → merged into “weak/fake” in all contexts.
• TRN: not common in 2016 → incels = extreme Chad, groypers = ironic slang → by 2025 hybrid of “alpha rival” + “realest/based.”

Would you like me to also map which terms are most dominant in each subculture today (2025) in a ranking chart (Incels vs Groypers vs Trumpists)?

Prompt Yes,

Here’s the ranking chart of terms in 2025 across subcultures:

• Incels: strongest on Blackpill, Chad, Stacy, TRN — their world is still built around sexual hierarchy and fatalism.
• Groypers: strongest on Based, Cuck, Redpill — focused on political authenticity and attacking GOP moderates.
• Trumpists: strongest on Based, Cuck, Redpill too, but less extreme than groypers; TRN doesn’t matter much here.

Would you like me to also show where these subcultures overlap the most today (a 2025 overlap map like the Venn, but simplified to highlight the hottest shared terms)?

End prompt.

 

[Peter Popoff]

My Facebook going crazy. I'm unfriending and shadow blocking so many Charlie Kirk supporters.

Many I will never hang out with again. Texas y'all.

 

[Metal Face]

I can only respect the grift.

i was crying when i saw this

mf dropped that song only 24 hours after the shyt

 

[SunZoo]

Interesting.

I was thinking he was self-motivated, kid seems like a simpleton to me. I guess what I’m saying is he doesn’t seem like he has the mental capacity to even understand the ideals you laid out.

I suppose it is possible.

I’ll wait for trial, no actual news about the motive will come out of this until then.

Him being a simpleton makes everything I just pointed make more sense if you ask me. These cults depend on simpletons and their baked in frustrations to compel them to do their bidding and advance their agenda.

And if you saw the video, it doesn't look like the work of a lone wolf. You got people next to Charlie tipping their hat, giving hand signals like it's a baseball game or some shyt. If you can peep the coordination here, realize he didn't need to have the mental capacity to do anything but show up and take the shot, something he has probably been doing before he hit puberty.

All you gotta do with him is gas him up point him in a particular direction and run the play. And who called said play, could just as easily be the Groyper faction of the right or even Zionists using the opportunity to kill two birds with one bullet by proxy.

If Kirk had continued down the path of demanding release of the Epstein files and questioning Isreal he had the clout to make it a mainstream sentiment.

 

[SunZoo]

My Facebook going crazy. I'm unfriending and shadow blocking so many Charlie Kirk supporters.

Many I will never hang out with again. Texas y'all.

I been avoiding Nosebook in general but especially right now, I do not look forward to seeing people I know c00n/hold water for this fukking bozo while they try to turn him into MAGA Luther King.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Idk breh

They ran down on the neighbor at his apartment complex

Neighbor said dude was gay as hell - idk if it’s a tranny or not (doesn’t really matter)





So he’s a gay white weirdo and Kirk don’t like gay people so he shot him

That’s pretty much it.

He is lying. Body language and the vague/non answers. No specifics

 

[snikt6384]

Florida lawmaker says Charlie Kirk was "fitting sacrifice"

Councilman Steve Cody is facing calls to resign after he said Charlie Kirk was a "fitting sacrifice to our Lords: Smith & Wesson."

www.newsweek.com

Florida Lawmaker Says Charlie Kirk Was 'Fitting Sacrifice'​

Yesterday at null

By Martha McHardy

US News Reporter

Florida lawmaker Steve Cody is facing calls to resign after he said that Charlie Kirk was a "fitting sacrifice" to gun manufacturers following the conservative activist's assassination at a Utah college this week.

"Charlie Kirk is a fitting sacrifice to our Lords: Smith & Wesson. Hallowed be their names," he wrote on Facebook in a now-deleted post. Smith & Wesson is a well-known manufacturer of firearms.

Cody, a councilman in the Miami-Dade village of Palmetto Bay, told Newsweek: "I will not be resigning."

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Why It Matters​

Kirk's death has provoked strong reaction online, with some prominent MAGA figures blaming the "radical left" for his death and even calling for "war," while some critics of Kirk and his views have celebrated his death.

His shooting, along with the reactions on social media, demonstrates just how divided American politics has become. It follows a string of attacks on prominent political figures, including Trump, who narrowly survived an assassination attempt in June 2024, while in June of this year, a Democratic lawmaker was shot dead in Minnesota.

Councilman Steve Cody.Palmetto Bay/AP

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What To Know​

Cody's post sparked anger from supporters of Kirk. "The damage has already been done. It's not a question of left or right. This is immoral and it shows which side he is on," Palmetto Bay resident Chad Heffernan told CBS News Miami.

Dozens of residents also gathered outside Palmetto Bay City Hall on Friday to call for his resignation.

Among those calling for Cody's resignation were Palmetto Bay Mayor Karyn Cunningham and Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier.

Mayor Cunningham, who switched from Republican to No Party Affiliation in 2022, said Cody's remarks were incompatible with his duties as an elected official.

Miami-Dade Commissioner Danielle Cohen Higgins, a Democrat, also called for his resignation.

Republican state Representative Omar Blanco described the remarks as "a stain on our community" and demanded Cody step down. The Republican Party of Miami-Dade also denounced the comments as "grotesque," adding: "No public servant should ever condone or celebrate political murder. By mocking and justifying an assassination, Councilman Cody has forfeited the public trust. We call for his immediate removal from office."

Cody later admitted regret, telling CBS News Miami: "If I had thought about it longer, I probably would have just kept that thought to myself." He insisted he will not resign, noting he is term-limited and intends to serve through 2028.

MSNBC fired political analyst Matthew Dowd after he said of Kirk: "You cannot harbor these dreadful thoughts and express them without anticipating dreadful actions to follow. This unfortunate environment is where we find ourselves."

Glen Turf, a senior official at Miami Country Day School, resigned, the Miami Herald reported, after commenting on Instagram: "He died. Oh well...He ironically promoted gun usage. Karma."

Amid the reaction, some have called for an end to political division and violence, including Utah Governor Spencer Cox, a Republican. "Our nation is broken," he said, pleading that "all of us will try to find a way to stop hating our fellow Americans."

A YouGov survey conducted on September 11 among 3,926 adults found that 11 percent of Democrats said it is "always" or "usually" acceptable to celebrate the death of a public figure they oppose, compared to 6 percent of Republicans.

Meanwhile, 38 percent of Democrats and 77 percent of Republicans said it was "always" unacceptable.

Overall, 9 percent of Americans say it is acceptable to celebrate such a death, while 78 percent said it is unacceptable.

Kelly Rader of the States United Democracy Center told Newsweek that despite renewed fears, research shows "regular Americans broadly reject political violence" across party lines.

What People Are Saying​

Steve Cody told CBS News Miami: "It was something that I regretted doing...only after it was out, that I realized the pain it would cause not just to Charlie Kirk's family and friends, but to a much wider community, and that was not my intent."

Palmetto Bay Mayor Karyn Cunningham said, per CBS News Miami: "I find the post itself not fitting of the village of Palmetto Bay as elected officials. We are held to, I think, a higher bar...It's certainly not something that I can support, and so I feel like it's in the best interest of the community for us to pivot in a different direction."

Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier, a Republican, wrote on X: "If this Facebook post is legitimate, Steve Cody should resign from his position as Palmetto Bay Council member immediately."

Miami-Dade Commissioner Danielle Cohen Higgins said, per the Miami Herald: "When elected, the people look to you to serve and to represent. The people also look to you to lead by example. When an elected official, entrusted with the confidence of his community, makes callous dangerous statements proclaiming that any American is a 'fitting sacrifice' to gun violence, it not only belies the confidence of his office, it makes clear that he is not fit for office."

Kelly Rader of the States United Democracy Center told Newsweek: "There is no place for violence in our politics. While recent tragic events have renewed concerns that political violence is becoming socially acceptable, the best research shows that regular Americans broadly reject political violence. And that's true across the political spectrum. People agree it's a problem for democracy. These acts of violence demand our condemnation. It's clear the public believes that political violence is unacceptable and must never be normalized."

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What Happens Next​

Cody has indicated he would not resign from his post.

Cody better get his guns ready.

 

[ORDER_66]

Cody better get his guns ready.

The cac on cac war has begun...

 

[Rollie Forbes]

 

[ItWasWritten]

Him being a simpleton makes everything I just pointed make more sense if you ask me. These cults depend on simpletons and their baked in frustrations to compel them to do their bidding and advance their agenda.

And if you saw the video, it doesn't look like the work of a lone wolf. You got people next to Charlie tipping their hat, giving hand signals like it's a baseball game or some shyt. If you can peep the coordination here, realize he didn't need to have the mental capacity to do anything but show up and take the shot, something he has probably been doing before he hit puberty.

All you gotta do with him is gas him up point him in a particular direction and run the play. And who called said play, could just as easily be the Groyper faction of the right or even Zionists using the opportunity to kill two birds with one bullet by proxy.

If Kirk had continued down the path of demanding release of the Epstein files and questioning Isreal he had the clout to make it a mainstream sentiment.

Damn didn’t see that

Just seen the shot to his neck but didn’t really notice people giving signals, then again I wasn’t looking

Ok so have they brought in the people giving signals ?

 

[High Art]

She didn’t say anything disrespectful and everything she said was point on. Why are they acting like he is some noble man. The man was a divisive racist pos. He was no hero nor should he be honored or glorified.

Yeah, it will get to a point where the videos where he says racist shyt will get under their skin. It will be funny since they love to spread these videos and now it will work against them.

My friend told me about his business being called and him laughing at MAGAts on the phone over this. He said he mocked them for trying to cancel someone too. A few completely lost it and started crashing out on the phone apparently.

 

[Sauce Mane]

So what's the update on the shooter and why he did it?

Stopped following this story yesterday as it was getting annoying

 

[snikt6384]

So what's the update on the shooter and why he did it?

Stopped following this story yesterday as it was getting annoying

At this point? Either he's in love with his trans roommate and did it out of love, he's a Groyper (which is a specific, chronically online sect of White Supremacists who dislike Kirk for loving Israel and not going far right enough) or he's both.

Right now Kash and friends aren't dropping a whole lot of information and the lack of a clear narrative makes it seems like they're a combination of incompetent and stalling.

 

[Sauce Mane]

At this point? Either he's in love with his trans roommate and did it out of love, he's a Groyper (which is a specific, chronically online sect of White Supremacists who dislike Kirk for loving Israel and not going far right enough) or he's both.

Right now Kash and friends aren't dropping a whole lot of information and the lack of a clear narrative makes it seems like they're a combination of incompetent and stalling.

Wait, the trans roommate thing is true? Lol coming from Mormon conservative family is a crazy turn of events

 

[Lonj]

Wait, the trans roommate thing is true? Lol coming from Mormon conservative family is a crazy turn of events

It hasn't been officially confirmed but right wingers are running with it cause it fits their narrative.