Brehs, How come LL Cool J isn't talked about much when it comes to GOAT 90's Rappers?

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I get his 90s hits. And commercial appeal.

But is his work in the 80s considered top tier and classic?

To me in the 80s he sounded very hardcore. Not commercial at all. But not too grimy.

Powerful. Like a bad guy version of Run DMC but he was still a good person....kinda (fukked a pregnant chick right b4 he hit the stage once)

But his voice sounds smooth and grimy at the same time in the 80s.

Was he considered top tier and classic :dahell:

He had 3 platinum albums in the 80's breh. He was literally the first solo rapper to go Platinum ever. First solo rapper to release a full length LP ever.

Him and Run DMC redefined the sound of hip hop with their first albums. Then LL came completely out of left field with "I Need Love" creating a whole new style of song with hip hop ballads.

LL's longevity and ability to stay current and still somehow seem young over 3+ decades is phenomenal.
 

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What year did you see him live?

I respect that so much!
I saw him JUNE 29,1986 on his 1st major tour which was opening for RUN DMC on their raising hell tour when it hit Rochester NY.
Lineup went in this order:
RUN DMC
WHODINI
LL COOL J (RADIO ALBUM HAD JUST DROPPED A YEAR BEFORE)
BEASTIE BOYS (who only had a single out at the time and they only did 2 songs and we're off in 10 minutes)

LL was supposed to come here 6 months before that and headline a small venue with MC Shan opening but he didn't show.
During his set someone shot a bottle onstage and busted him in the head...he stopped the show security yanked the dude that did it from the crowd,took him backstage to be never seen again lol and LL finished his set.

Great show and tour,good times!
 

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I get his 90s hits. And commercial appeal.

But is his work in the 80s considered top tier and classic?

To me in the 80s he sounded very hardcore. Not commercial at all
. But not too grimy.

Powerful. Like a bad guy version of Run DMC but he was still a good person....kinda (fukked a pregnant chick right b4 he hit the stage once)

But his voice sounds smooth and grimy at the same time in the 80s.

:mjtf:
First off yes his work in the 80s is considered top tier and classic,Radio and Im Bad are certifed iconic albums

Secondly he WAS commercial too from the jump and had that balance. He dropped I Need Love
 

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Dr J Effect.. his MVP years were before the game exploded on a mainstream level, and even though his stardom extended into that post explosion era he was outshined by the acts that ultimately now define it

What gets me is why sometimes he isn’t looked at a CLEARLY above late 80s types like Kane and Rakim that didn’t have a fraction of his run
 

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First off yes his work in the 80s is considered top tier and classic,Radio and Im Bad are certifed iconic albums

Secondly he WAS commercial too from the jump and had that balance. He dropped I Need Love

Okay. Even for commercial he sounded hardcore.
Was he considered top tier and classic :dahell:

He had 3 platinum albums in the 80's breh. He was literally the first solo rapper to go Platinum ever. First solo rapper to release a full length LP ever.

Him and Run DMC redefined the sound of hip hop with their first albums. Then LL came completely out of left field with "I Need Love" creating a whole new style of song with hip hop ballads.

LL's longevity and ability to stay current and still somehow seem young over 3+ decades is phenomenal.

3 platinum albums in the 80s is insane. I didn't know 3 of them went platinum. Thank you.

He had the health to enjoy it all as well.
 

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I saw him JUNE 29,1986 on his 1st major tour which was opening for RUN DMC on their raising hell tour when it hit Rochester NY.
Lineup went in this order:
RUN DMC
WHODINI
LL COOL J (RADIO ALBUM HAD JUST DROPPED A YEAR BEFORE)
BEASTIE BOYS (who only had a single out at the time and they only did 2 songs and we're off in 10 minutes)

LL was supposed to come here 6 months before that and headline a small venue with MC Shan opening but he didn't show.
During his set someone shot a bottle onstage and busted him in the head...he stopped the show security yanked the dude that did it from the crowd,took him backstage to be never seen again lol and LL finished his set.

Great show and tour,good times!

Amazing experience! You saw a beyond legendary show.

Where was this?

When I read interviews from Krs and Kool Keith they talk on how LL came before them but I always thought BDP and Ultra were around then. But they weren't.

Man, it's a blessing to have someone like you on the Coli or online period!

Thank you!

Edit. @UNCLE JAM I meant read "interviews" from them...not "interfaith" my bad for not seeing that typo. Fixed now.
 
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listen, lol

I dont care where people try to put LL, he is THE ONE. First solo Superstar. I dont care who was out in the 80's Ra, Kane, Rick, G Rap whoever, LL IS THE ONE. 90's Big, Nas, Jay, Pac etc..... LL IS THE ONE. Not saying he was the in the 90s rapper by any means, but...

Everybody talk about he made love records..blah blah. But I also remember him being the first to brag about neigborhoods well him and Schooly., in RAPS

Long before Marcy and QB, it was Farmers Blvd.



Now I'ma dedicate this rhyme to my favorite street
You'll think about it every time that you hear this beat
Any other jam you hear just dis-regard
This is the National Anthem of the Boulevard
See I'm loyal to the Boule 'cause it taught me the deal
Certainly the place to be and that's how I feel
Farmers Boulevard, E-Love, and me, Cool J
In the center of it all is the Q-3-A
42nd will surrender, Delancey's in fear
Queens Boulevard is soft, they don't come around here
With gazelles on my face, I will hold my space
Entertain, stimulate, and conduct the bass
 
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