Yeah of course he has
Brehs, How come LL Cool J isn't talked about much when it comes to GOAT 90's Rappers?
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Antdrewjosh
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Hell yes. This right here just convinced me that his last album really wasn't listened to. Cause LL was spitting on this last album. I stayed rewinding songs. nikkas really need to sit down with a blunt or favorite drink and really listen..
75% of that is girl/club songs. He doesn't miss when he tries and takes it serious.
daemonova
hit it, & I didn't go Erykah Badu crazy, #yallmad
They was cracking jokes on LL during the 90s, on this boards predecessor. 
By the time, we get to "doin it well" nobody was taking LL seriously, that was even before I went to college
By the time, we get to "doin it well" nobody was taking LL seriously, that was even before I went to college
SOHH existing during the 90's??!!They was cracking jokes on LL during the 90s, on this boards predecessor.
By the time, we get to "doin it well" nobody was taking LL seriously, that was even before I went to college
daemonova
hit it, & I didn't go Erykah Badu crazy, #yallmad
there was a greatest hits album that was released that covered his biggest hits from radio to mr smith...thats a fairly good compilation...you dont chart from the 80s to the 2000s and not have recognizable hits
In the 80’s he was considered to be a level below the Rakims, Kanes, KRS, and G-Raps as far as lyrical abilities. - FAIR
In the 90’s he was considered to be a level below the Nas, Jay-Zs and Biggies as far as lyrical abilities - FAIR
As the biggest solo rapper in the late 80’s early 90’s he got the criticism of being too commercial - UNFAIR
He got criticism for putting out too much music for the ladies - UNFAIR
In my opinion Jay is the GOAT, but LL is the blueprint. He was the first major international superstar solo rapper. He is the template on how you gotta mix it up with the hardcore sh!t but also the commercial/music for the ladies to achieve real success.
In the 90’s he was considered to be a level below the Nas, Jay-Zs and Biggies as far as lyrical abilities - FAIR
As the biggest solo rapper in the late 80’s early 90’s he got the criticism of being too commercial - UNFAIR
He got criticism for putting out too much music for the ladies - UNFAIR
In my opinion Jay is the GOAT, but LL is the blueprint. He was the first major international superstar solo rapper. He is the template on how you gotta mix it up with the hardcore sh!t but also the commercial/music for the ladies to achieve real success.
Hey lover and loungin were winners..especially the female in that video...
vdfebduderocks
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I mean the 90s were when we started to get an influx of rappers from not just New York but other parts of the US, partially because of the success of LL, Run DMC, Public Enemy, N.W.A, and all of them. Way more competition out there and some of those cats released absolute classics.
Also, remember that Def Jam was in the toilet for the first half of the 90s until Warren G saved the label from bankruptcy. The style LL championed transitioned to gangsta rap and then to mafioso rap through the decade. LL was largely playing catchup, though Mr Smith & Phenomenon were solid albums.
Also, remember that Def Jam was in the toilet for the first half of the 90s until Warren G saved the label from bankruptcy. The style LL championed transitioned to gangsta rap and then to mafioso rap through the decade. LL was largely playing catchup, though Mr Smith & Phenomenon were solid albums.
mr smith holds it own with being a stone cold classic album like other 90s classics...that album (and particular era of his) was and is a monster to this day
Antdrewjosh
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I will put it like this if I had to choose a champion by pulling them out of a hat..and I chose LL..I have no problem with that. I can put LL up against anyone from the 80s 90s 00s 10s and with this last album now.. To me he cemented his argument for GOAT with this last one. Even more so then anyone from the 80s or 90s cause none of them have been able to put out an album like his last..except Nas..
fixed.
LL albums dont resonate like that, maybe one or two. They are like Drake albums.