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by PRINCETON OPEN CAMPUS COALITION November 24, 2015 12:50 PM

Editor’s Note: The Princeton Open Campus Coalition is a student group at Princeton University formed to push back against the recent wave of politically correct suppression of open academic discourse on campus. The following letter was originally published at the Coalition’s Facebook page.

Dear President Eisgruber,

We write on behalf of the Princeton Open Campus Coalition to request a meeting with you so that we may present our perspectives on the events of recent weeks. We are concerned mainly with the importance of preserving an intellectual culture :camby:in which all members of the Princeton community feel free to engage in civil discussion and to express their convictions without fear of being subjected to intimidation or abuse. :russ:Thanks to recent polls, surveys, and petitions, we have reason to believe that our concerns are shared by a majority of our fellow Princeton undergraduates.

Academic discourse consists of reasoned arguments. :pacspit:We simply wish to present our own reasoned arguments and engage you and other senior administrators in dialogue. We will not occupy your office:rudy:, and, though we respectfully request a minimum of an hour of your time, we will only stay for as long as you wish. We will conduct ourselves in the civil manner that is our hope to maintain and reinforce as the norm at Princeton.

This dialogue is necessary because many students have shared with us that they are afraid to state publicly their opinions on recent events for fear of being vilified, slandered, and subjected to hatred, either by fellow students or faculty.:pachaha: Many who questioned the protest were labeled racist, and black students who expressed disagreement with the protesters were called “white sympathizers” and were told they were “not black.” :umad:We, the Princeton Open Campus Coalition, refuse to let our peers be intimidated or bullied into silence on these — or any — important matters.

First, we wish to discuss with you the methods employed by protesters. Across the ideological spectrum on campus, many people found the invasion of your office and refusal to leave to be troubling. Admittedly, civil disobedience (and even law-breaking) can sometimes be justified. However, they cannot be justified when channels of advocacy, through fair procedures of decision-making, are fully open, as they are at our university. To adopt these tactics while such procedures for debate and reform are in place is to come dangerously close to the line dividing demonstration from intimidation. It is also a way of seeking an unfair advantage over people with different viewpoints who refuse to resort to such tactics for fear of damaging this institution that they love.

Second, we welcome a fair debate about the specific demands that have been made.

We oppose efforts to purge (and literally paint over) recognitions of President Woodrow Wilson’s achievements, including Wilson College, the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, and his mural in Wilcox Dining Hall. As you have noted, Wilson, like all other historical figures, has a mixed legacy. It is not for his contemptible racism, but for his contributions as president of both Princeton and the United States that we honor Wilson. :rudy:Moreover, if we cease honoring flawed individuals, there will be no names adorning our buildings, no statues decorating our courtyards, and no biographies capable of inspiring future generations.:ld:

We worry that the proposed distribution requirement will contribute to the politicization of the university and facilitate groupthink. However, we, too, are concerned about diversity in the classroom and offer our own solution to this problem. While we do not wish to impose additional distribution requirements on students for fear of stifling academic exploration, we believe that all students should be encouraged to take courses taught by professors who will challenge their preconceived mindsets. To this end, the university should make every effort to attract outstanding faculty representing a wider range of viewpoints — even controversial viewpoints — across all departments. Princeton needs more Peter Singers, more Cornel Wests, and more Robert Georges.:camby:

Similarly, we believe that requiring cultural competency training for faculty threatens to impose orthodoxies on issues about which people of good faith often disagree. As Professor Sergiu Klainerman has observed, it reeks of the reeducation programs to which people in his native Romania were subjected under Communist rule.:sas1:

We firmly believe that there should be no space at a university in which any member of the community, student or faculty, is “safe” from having his or her most cherished and even identity-forming values challenged. It is the very mission of the university to seek truth by subjecting all beliefs to critical, rational scrutiny. :pacspit:While students with a shared interest in studying certain cultures are certainly welcome to live together, we reject university-sponsored separatism in housing.:pacspit: We are all members of the Princeton community. We denounce the notion that our basic interactions with each other should be defined by demographic traits.:whoa:

We hope that you will agree to meet with us. We will be happy to make ourselves available to meet in your office at your earliest convenience. We are also requesting a meeting with the Board of Trustees. For reasons you have articulated in your recent message to the community, there is no time to waste in having these discussions. Unlike their counterparts at other universities, Princeton undergraduates opposed to the curtailment of academic freedom refuse to remain silent out of fear of being slandered.

We will not stop fighting for what we believe in. :russell:

Thank you very much for your consideration. We look forward to your reply.

Sincerely, The Legislative Committee of Princeton Open Campus Coalition

Allie Burton ’17 Evan Draim ’16 Josh Freeman ’18 Sofia Gallo ’17 Solveig Gold ’17 Andy Loo ’16 Sebastian Marotta ’16 Devon Naftzger ’16 Beni Snow ’19 Josh Zuckerman ’16:scusthov:

Princeton Student Group: We Stand for Academic Freedom and Open Dialogue, by Princeton Open Campus Coalition, National Review
 

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shyt, you can't even engage in reasoned discourse outside HL. People more worried about getting their feelings hurt than arriving at a consensus or making sure their argument has legs.

Talking to these fools is like being on a Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion show. Dudes so anti-gay on here but the only difference between them and a tranny is the money for the procedure.
 
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shyt, you can't even engage in reasoned discourse outside HL. People more worried about getting their feelings hurt than arriving at a consensus or making sure their argument has legs.

Talking to these fools is like being on a Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion show. Dudes so anti-gay on here but the only difference between them and a tranny is the money for the procedure.
I have been BANNED for suggesting that given the context of post-WW1 Germany, Hitler was a good leader for the Germans...

My point is, the Jews WILL NOT ALLOW anybody to even suggest that a NAZI was an "honorable person"...They WILL NOT ALLOW anyone to contest the facts about the Holocaust...

Some Belgian Comedian was tried and convicted of being a "Holocaust denier"...

For these same reasons, a certain race of people SHOULD NOT tolerate the glorification of documented racists, even if they "did good in other areas of their lives"...There should be NO DEBATE....

If he was documented as a racist, his ENTIRE legacy should tarnished and even erased...

It should be a ZERO TOLERANCE policy...

It is easy to see how the rest of the world is quick to deny the pain and suffering of a certain race of people, because that race of people just hasn't learned how to maneuver in this world...
 

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I have been BANNED for suggesting that given the context of post-WW1 Germany, Hitler was a good leader for the Germans...

My point is, the Jews WILL NOT ALLOW anybody to even suggest that a NAZI was an "honorable person"...They WILL NOT ALLOW anyone to contest the facts about the Holocaust...

Some Belgian Comedian was tried and convicted of being a "Holocaust denier"...

For these same reasons, a certain race of people SHOULD NOT tolerate the glorification of documented racists, even if they "did good in other areas of their lives"...There should be NO DEBATE....

If he was documented as a racist, his ENTIRE legacy should tarnished and even erased...

It should be a ZERO TOLERANCE policy...

It is easy to see how the rest of the world is quick to deny the pain and suffering of a certain race of people, because that race of people just hasn't learned how to maneuver in this world...
There is no understanding of context or objectivity in discussion. In terms of prosperity for the country of Germany, Hitler was a "good leader", shyt, Prescott Bush and Henry Ford certainly thought so. But stupid people would like to equate that with agreeing with his means of success.

You cannot engage in discourse regarding geopolitics and economics from an emotional stance. That removes objectivity and hinders your judgment. It's up to the masses to be swayed by sociological and/or nationalist rhetoric, which is what The Locker Room is for.

I don't require people to agree with me; that saps all the fun out of discourse.
 
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Is this about the BLM protesters in the library? I'd be pissed off too if I was studying and that shyt happened.
 

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Can't you post a better source for this than a white supremacist site Kemetian?
 

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When did liberals turn on Woodrow Wilson wasn't he one of their commie hero's just a few years ago? We've been calling him a racist for a while he was the first president to implement segregation a true Democrat liberal who wanted more government
 

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I don't think much of anyone who lives in NJ by choice.

We have really nice homes here get to experience all seasons no real life threatening natural disasters outside of once every 50 year anomalies and we don't have the congestion of NYC and ultra premiums for struggle apartments like NYC does...and it's close enough to visit but not have to deal with the bull shyt that NYC is cuz we have open space to drive or different terrains to take a jeep on some hills if we want ...oh and we have shores to experience beach life plus the poconos in P.A are not to far to go skiing
 
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