California Defies Expectations of Doom, Promises Massive Tax Rebate

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California Defies Expectations of Doom, Promises Massive Tax Rebate

By adding 1.3 million people to its non-farm payrolls since April last year — equal to the entire workforce of Nevada — California easily surpassed also-rans Texas and New York. At the same time, California household income increased $164 billion, almost as much as Texas, Florida and Pennsylvania combined, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. No wonder California's operating budget surplus, fueled by its surging economy and capital gains taxes, swelled to a record $75 billion...

While pundits have long insisted California policies are bad for business, reality belies them. In a sign of investor demand, the weight of California companies in the benchmark S&P 500 Index increased 3 percentage points since a year ago, the most among all states, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Faith in California credit was similarly superlative, with the weight of corporate bonds sold by companies based in the state rising the most among all states, to 12.5 percentage points from 11.7 percentage points, according to the Bloomberg Barclays U.S. Corporate Bond Index. Translation: Investors had the greatest confidence in California companies during the pandemic. The most trusted measure of economic strength says California is the world-beater among democracies. The state's gross domestic product increased 21% during the past five years, dwarfing No. 2 New York (14%) and No. 3 Texas (12%), according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The gains added $530 billion to the Golden State, 30% more than the increase for New York and Texas combined and equivalent to the entire economy of Sweden.

Among the five largest economies, California outperforms the U.S., Japan and Germany with a growth rate exceeded only by China...

Corporate California also is the undisputed leader in renewable energy, with 26 companies worth $897 billion, or 36% of the U.S. industry, having reported 10% or more of their revenues derived from clean technology. No state comes close to matching the 21% of electricity derived from solar energy. Shares of these firms appreciated 282% during the past 12 months and 1,003%, 1,140% and 9,330% over two, five and 10 years, respectively, with no comparable rivals anywhere in the world, according to BloombergNEF. The same companies also increased their workforce 35% since 2019, almost tripling the rate for the rest U.S. overall and four times the global rate...

California companies invested 16% of their revenues in R&D, or their future, when the rest of the U.S. put aside just 1%...

Much has been made of the state reporting its first yearly loss in population, or 182,000 last year. Had it not been for the Trump administration preventing new visas, depriving as many as 150,000 people from moving to California from other countries annually, the 2020 outcome would have been more favorable.
 

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California isn’t dying brehs

A lot of people equate downtown SF and LA with 'California'. They don't realize among other things that California basically feeds the country on everything but grains and meat.

The state has been growing for a century so it had to stop some time. It's probably better if some people left.

However, having mad fam from Oakland, I do believe Cali is headed down to one of the more extreme wealth inequalities in the country though. I love the Bay Area but I slummed with relatives when I worked there since property is so damn expensive.
 

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nikkas said Cali was over, such dummies/even if it falls it land on a bunch of money.

New York City will be back soon enough too. Can't believe people were actually rooting for the fall of the biggest state and city in America.
 

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Weren't you on the California is dead bandwagon?

Seems like shyt picked up once the dead weight like Elon Musk left.

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Economically Dead? No… I was and still am on the ‘liberals are pricing POC out of the state.’


Whether or not Cali cacs are eating has never been up for debate far as I know…
 

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Economically Dead? No… I was and still am on the ‘liberals are pricing POC out of the state.’


Whether or not Cali cacs are eating has never been up for debate far as I know…
Texas and Florida are no different though, so what's your point.
 

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What about the fukking water emergency cali keep crying about???:dahell:

California will be just fine on water if they can actually stand up to agriculture.

Need to simply tell alfalfa, almond, rice producers etc. (and some irrigated pasture too) that they need to grow that shyt in places with enough water to support it. The VAST majority of Cali's water issues come from growing particular crops here that aren't meant to grow in a dry climate.
 

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nikkas said Cali was over, such dummies/even if it falls it land on a bunch of money.

New York City will be back soon enough too. Can't believe people were actually rooting for the fall of the biggest state and city in America.

There are a lot of people who want to bask in the schadenfreude of the liberal governors that did hard lock downs on their states paying the price for 'overreacting' to COVID. Some in the media seem to want to portray Cali as paralyzed by PC and homeless defecation and NY becoming a crime hell hole. Like many things there is some truth, but it's also political.

Given the states like NY and CA got hit earliest when we knew jack shyt about COVID's epidemiology and fatality is part of the reason for their reaction but I am not going into public health measure debates in this thread.
 

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conomically Dead? No… I was and still am on the ‘liberals are pricing POC out of the state.’

Not sure about POC but definitely Black folks. Black folks have been leaving the Bay Area since the early aughts for this reason. Latinos and Asians are filling in the demographic gap though so I see Black enclaves in Cali rapidly shrinking over the next decade. If gentrification keeps apace, the last parts of West Oakland will fall like Fillmore did in SF.
 
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