Caller On Yvette Carnell Analyzes Dr. Claud Anderson

[Poitier]

Start around 2:07:00 to about 2:15:00

Caller says Dr. Claud spent 30 years in government via military, schooling, and politics BEFORE he ever owned a business.

Yvette says Dr. Claud has a great grasp of the problem but his solutions are completely wrong

Obviously Claud thinks Black folks should build an economic base and parlay that into politics while Yvette think political capital leads to economic mobility.

Yvette says a full show analyzing Powernomics ideology is otw and a caller even suggest she has Claud call in...

Thoughts?

 

[Bawon Samedi]

going to watch after class.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Dr. Anderson's ideas just can't work. They didn't even work for white people. The government investing in whites is what allowed them to build their wealth. The same has to be done for blacks.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Start around 2:07:00 to about 2:15:00

Caller says Dr. Claud spent 30 years in government via military, schooling, and politics BEFORE he ever owned a business.

Yvette says Dr. Claud has a great grasp of the problem but his solutions are completely wrong

Obviously Claud thinks Black folks should build an economic base and parlay that into politics while Yvette think political capital leads to economic mobility.

Yvette says a full show analyzing Powernomics ideology is otw and a caller even suggest she has Claud call in...

Thoughts?

Would be good to see them face to face and talk through it.

The issue with Claude and Boyce types as they speak as if all black people need to do is save money each check, stop buying jordans, and then they can start a business that employs people and generates millions.

The thing is with Yvette is some will hear her and think she is saying starting a business is useless, when in actuality she is really saying it aint that simple, but some just don't like her delivery for whatever reasons.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Watching and would love to see Dr Claude Anderson and her debate.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Her accent is too much, I can’t listen

 

[omnifax]

It's funny because my first time hearing of Dr. Anderson was here on the Coli several years ago. Like many people I thought his ideas made sense on the surface but as I started to listen to other commentators opinions on the DOS situation here in the U.S. I started to move away from some of his basic principles in relation to black business. I think what he and many other "do for selfers" (borrowing a phrase from Yvette) have a habit of leaving out a lot of historical context from their argument. This is very odd in Dr. Anderson's case because in many of his talks he goes into a lot of history about the laws that were passed/enforced to the detriment of the DOS. It seems as if he can't bridge the logic gap between those laws and why just telling DOS to start a business and others to patron it won't work without support from the government/policies especially in this day and age where wealth and capital is being locked in to the elite (largely white) class.

This latest information isn't something I wasn't unaware of as he has mentioned his time in the military/government many times before, but I personally didn't connect the dots until that caller brought it up in that broadcast Wednesday. I guess my question for him would be if you knew much of this history, you knew that policy was going to be a major driving force in order to get black business and communities off the ground and stable, why would you turn around and tell black people the opposite?

Maybe being on the inside of government he saw how much money influenced politics and that's how he came to his current conclusions?

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

It's funny because my first time hearing of Dr. Anderson was here on the Coli several years ago. Like many people I thought his ideas made sense on the surface but as I started to listen to other commentators opinions on the DOS situation here in the U.S. I started to move away from some of his basic principles in relation to black business. I think what he and many other "do for selfers" (borrowing a phrase from Yvette) have a habit of leaving out a lot of historical context from their argument. This is very odd in Dr. Anderson's case because in many of his talks he goes into a lot of history about the laws that were passed/enforced to the detriment of the DOS. It seems as if he can't bridge the logic gap between those laws and why just telling DOS to start a business and others to patron it won't work without support from the government/policies especially in this day and age where wealth and capital is being locked in to the elite (largely white) class.
This latest information isn't something I wasn't unaware of as he has mentioned his time in the military/government many times before, but I personally didn't connect the dots until that caller brought it up in that broadcast Wednesday. I guess my question for him would be if you knew much of this history, you knew that policy was going to be a major driving force in order to get black business and communities off the ground and stable, why would you turn around and tell black people the opposite?
Maybe being on the inside of government he saw how much money influenced politics and that's how he came to his current conclusions?

A friend of mine somewhat echoed your words about the necessity of the government and how most solutions are destined to fail without government involvement
I'll ask you, what I asked him...what achievable policy do you want implemented that support Black business? and how does that policy differ from what currently exist that support all businesses?

As for Dr. Anderson's do for self philosophy, I believe it's a mandatory act for any community claiming to want to achieve internal resourcefulness. I don't think Dr. Anderson fails to connect the logic gap between laws and his philosophy because I think he, like myself, don't see enough obstacles of the current policies to throwup your arms in defeat and say we need government involvement for us to move forward

Furthermore, there are innate obstacles that has nothing to do with the government but more to do with greed and self-serving. As a business owner, I'm wrong if I prop up my community's historical and current ordeals to demand/shame the government to carve out unique policies to benefit Black businesses and demand/shame the government to commit to help with my unique business problems as a Black entrepreneur, but I refuse to commit to the investment and support of the Black community, while demanding/shaming them to support my buisiness

 

[Mr Uncle Leroy]

Grand Nubia
Baby

 

[Danktoker94]

Claude is an intelligent brother dude be speaking facts

 

[ahdsend]

caller misrepresenting claud anderson's views...

he been fighting for reparations...

 

[David_TheMan]

The only one suffering from push a negative black pathology is Carnell.
Its truly sad.
She is going to sit in that run down apartment begging white folks to save her and doing nothing but complaining about the blacks who are advocating self ownership, self control, and legal rights until she turns blue in the face or gets a way to sponsor her, which is what she really wants.

 

[Poitier]

caller misrepresenting claud anderson's views...

he been fighting for reparations...

Reparation does not answer what to do with the resources gained from it which there is a divide.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Dr. Anderson's ideas just can't work. They didn't even work for white people. The government investing in whites is what allowed them to build their wealth. The same has to be done for blacks.

Probably opening a can of worms but then how do you explain the economic independence of immigrants?

I'm not sure why it has to be an either or thing either. Votes still count, and with savvy can be leveraged. There are black districts in which Democratic candidates run uncontested. Why would anyone expect someone with such job security to work? I don't think black people do enough to fully leverage our political capital.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Probably opening a can of worms but then how do you explain the economic independence of immigrants?

I'm not sure why it has to be an either or thing either. Votes still count, and with savvy can be leveraged. There are black districts in which Democratic candidates run uncontested. Why would anyone expect someone with such job security to work? I don't think black people do enough to fully leverage our political capital.

To put it briefly, most immigrants that come here were well off or educated before they come over

In some cases they also have their home governments help them