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classicmaterial said:
Some of the 1st of the Month tracks were good too but it's so clear he just doesn't care anymore

The 10,000 Miles and Dime After Dime joints are hilarious but it'd be better if those were surrounded by legit fire songs. Was way easier to enjoy his trolling back when he was also delivering heat. Now it's still funny but it's like come on Killa where's the real shyt?
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Yeah he's still funny but not trying enough to balance it anymore. If he fukks around and tries he could deliver some heat though this tape shows

I don't get why the nikka ain't trying though
 
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Art Barr said:
you told on ya self here.

how are you this expert on how well he spitting now, and you don't listen to rap that much.
plus, you don't have this alternative submission for who is rapping better and you don't listen to a plethora of rap, right now.
to know who to give as a better alternative.

so, you just complaining cause you just a fair weather fan of rap, and what you used to like about rap.
you developed a disconnect to.

most of the critiques in here is some nikkaz who really did not listen to rap past the commercialized ideal of what rap is.
plus, where is this guy who is rapping better that they are using for this model of critique right now as well.

basically, in so many words...in conclusion...
chu hated.

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What are you talking about? You were just begging me to recommend you done new rappers to listen to and have made a career hating on everything new here. I don't give a fukk about what's hot... I'm comparing Cam to Cam. He fell off. And I'm someone who thinks PH Cam is top 5
 
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classicmaterial said:
Some of the 1st of the Month tracks were good too but it's so clear he just doesn't care anymore

The 10,000 Miles and Dime After Dime joints are hilarious but it'd be better if those were surrounded by legit fire songs. Was way easier to enjoy his trolling back when he was also delivering heat. Now it's still funny but it's like come on Killa where's the real shyt?
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it is a free mixtape, breh.

y'all talkin like he supposed to be giving you sumfin more than just bsides that would never see the light of day generally.
the funny thing is, y'all supported so many failed commercial wannabe admin fukked up rappers.
who platooned themselves into the stigma of what a mixtape artist was before they even came to the game trying to copy an admin limbo artist like:

fiddy in model

all the way to guys like d block, cam and weezy. who were all mired in admin issues from piss poor administration in their deals.
plus, trying to sellout and then rubbing it in the culture's face. till they had to pander to the actual culture they were trying to dupe in the first place.
which is how this flavor of mixtape came about.

a mixtape, in the interation that you guys like is a selection of shelved archived material from an administrative limbo issue based artist.


y'all so spoiled and never did any type of background to what the culture is you were trying to misappropiate.
that you think the very format you got as your generational idea of what a general rap release is, is generally flawed.

it is a premium to get adequate mixing on a mixtape.
it is a premium to get stellar star quality execution based pop records on its track listing. especially with it mixed and in its final format.

a mixtape is a peek behind the curtain for a administrative limbo affected artist.

just the material on it, is in theory supposed to be label property and never to see the light of day under the general context mixtapes operate in, in general.



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Art Barr said:
it is a free mixtape, breh.

y'all talkin like he supposed to be giving you sumfin more than just bsides that would never see the light of day generally.
the funny thing is, y'all supported so many failed commercial wannabe admin fukked up rappers.
who platooned themselves into the stigma of what a mixtape artist was before they even came to the game trying to copy an admin limbo artist like:

fiddy in model

all the way to guys like d block, cam and weezy. who were all mired in admin issues from piss poor administration in their deals.
plus, trying to sellout and then rubbing it in the culture's face. till they had to pander to the actual culture they were trying to dupe in the first place.
which is how this flavor of mixtape came about.

a mixtape, in the interation that you guys like is a selection of shelved archived material from an administrative limbo issue based artist.


y'all so spoiled and never did any type of background to what the culture is you were trying to misappropiate.
that you think the very format you got as your generational idea of what a general rap release is, is generally flawed.

it is a premium to get adequate mixing on a mixtape.
it is a premium to get stellar star quality execution based pop records on its track listing. especially with it mixed and in its final format.

a mixtape is a peek behind the curtain for a administrative limbo affected artist.

just the material on it, is in theory supposed to be label property and never to see the light of day under the general context mixtapes operate in, in general.



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It ain't 94 no more

The culture of mixtapes changed when 50 and Dipset hit

No one is saying the mixing should be better or the mastering

I'm saying the beats should be better and there should be more effort

None of 50's original run of tapes were as quality as Get Rich but they were solid tapes musically. So while I don't expect Killa to have perfectly panned channels and the mastering of a major label project I at least would hope he picks beats that don't sound like some 2008 throwaways and rapping that he took off his old notepads from 2012.

You're acting like mixtapes haven't been celebrated projects for the last decade plus. Like there haven't been top 10 and top 50 mixtapes of all time lists.

A bit extreme but it's like if I said a movie sucked and you came back with "movies weren't even originally in color"
 
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Cams one of my fav rappers of all time and I knew there was a reason i was avoiding listening to this :mjcry::mjcry::mjcry::mjcry:

Its not bad but its not very good either...its very forgettable :francis:

The same sound of those awful beats we've been hearing for years
 
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