Can a country succeed without strong patriotism?

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Giving all the controversy about patriotism, it got me to thinking. Can a country succeed without strong patriotism? What if the overall sentiment of it's people is a hatred of the goverment? Can that country succeed or is it doomed to fail?
 

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Is a country composed of people with identical interests and outcomes?

What does it mean for a country to "succeed?" Widely dispersed prosperity?
Well, it's open ended question. But for example, one might say Greece would be a country that would lack patriotism. I'm not saying it is. Just their failure might be an example.
 

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Patriotism is a nonsense word. Especially in this context. Was the U.S. founded on unpatriotic grounds in that virtually all its framers greatly feared a federal government and most more readily identified with regional affiliations? Was the USSR founded on unpatriotic grounds in that many of its framers were philosophically against the concept of nations and nationalism? Was western Germany founded on unpatriotic grounds in the ashes of it's nationalism overdose? How do we classify pre-nation states? Medieval states structured out of land claims?
 

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Isn't religion enough to kill for?


That's what you're really asking us here? Right?
Patriotism=religion? Is that's how you're intepretting my question? If not, please expand on how you're intepretting it.
 

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OP, your question is nonsensical.

There is no such thing as country success, what's successful for one segment is hell for another.

The usa was never successful. Whites will say it was, but they're only speaking for their segment. Black America has always suffered.

Is racial patriotism necessary for your race or ethnicity to succeed? Yes, absolutely. If everyone saluted the RBG Flag daily and honored Lift Every Voice, there would be progress. But sadly, it's not happening. Kaepernick is getting the ball rolling towards something potentially huge, but white supremacy might stomp it out eventually. Nothing frustrates me more than c00ns who are not racially patriotic. The Olympics thread should be nominated for Tariq's Plantation Celebration.

One should never be patriotic to a country that isn't your racial majority. A POC who loves the usa is a fakkit c00n who honestly should just be murked, they're an actual danger. Racial patriotism is the way to go, never country unless that country is mostly monoracial of your race.
 

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OP, your question is nonsensical.

There is no such thing as country success, what's successful for one segment is hell for another.

The usa was never successful. Whites will say it was, but they're only speaking for their segment. Black America has always suffered.

Is racial patriotism necessary for your race or ethnicity to succeed? Yes, absolutely. If everyone saluted the RBG Flag daily and honored Lift Every Voice, there would be progress. But sadly, it's not happening. Kaepernick is getting the ball rolling towards something potentially huge, but white supremacy might stomp it out eventually. Nothing frustrates me more than c00ns who are not racially patriotic. The Olympics thread should be nominated for Tariq's Plantation Celebration.

One should never be patriotic to a country that isn't your racial majority. A POC who loves the usa is a fakkit c00n who honestly should just be murked, they're an actual danger. Racial patriotism is the way to go, never country unless that country is mostly monoracial of your race.
Thankyou for making me finally realize that I need to put you on ignore :salute:

Sound just like the altright you supposedly hate
 

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Thankyou for making me finally realize that I need to put you on ignore :salute:

Sound just like the altright you supposedly hate
You don't understand what it takes to defeat white supremacy. If the abos had strong racial patriotism, you wouldn't have been able to take their land.
 

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You don't understand what it takes to defeat white supremacy. If the abos had strong racial patriotism, you wouldn't have been able to take their land.

The spread of disease had more to do with the success of colonization in Australia than did any sort of national shortcomings of Native Australians.

Furthermore, as far as I know, "abo" is a slur :camby:
 

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Nigerians and Jamaicans are notorious for displaying country flags in their cars, dorms or screensavers and boast here in America but in terms of success (vague definition OP) how do their countries far in a global economy?
 
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