Can African Americans exist "insulated" from white America?

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Question:
Do you feel it's possible for African Americans to exist in the United States within the following context?


Context:
1. %100 Finance(staff, ads, & living/travel expenses) of African American politics(city, county, state, & federal reps)
WHY?

• To be free of outside entities controlling AA politicians goals/positions via controlling AA campaign finance.

2. Employment of African Americans facilitated 85%-100% by African Americans
WHY?

• To insulate the political health of African Americans from reliance on foreign entities who use job insecurities to secure/push political agendas in exchange for employment.
• Meet the need to live, survive and thrive within the environment occupied by AA; while insulated from economic(embargo) based attacks via an employment channel not majority controlled by the political / economic apparatus of Europeans(whites).
• Insure access to the capital investment needed to fund new business and innovation creation catered to the needs of AA.

3. Administration, legal position/drafting, enactment, repeal, & enforcement(city, county, & state) by 60%-100% African Americans per jurisdiction
WHY?

• to be free of laws, enforcement, and sentencing that target / hamper the individual, family, & community(stability, growth, & security) of African Americans without accountability.(Examples: stop & frisk, unaccountable police killings, term length disparities, family court judgments, gentrification via land over taxation)

4. (federal representation) legal position & drafting 100% by African Americans
WHY?

• Makes sure our interstate and global political positions are voiced(included) in U.S. federal level policy decisions.

5. Foreign trade relations of A.A. companies conducted and facilitated %100 by African Americans
WHY?

• To have the ability to secure foreign produced goods(food,energy,technology) not produced by AA, insulated from economic(embargo) based attacks via a channel not majority controlled by the political / economic apparatus of Europeans(whites).

6. Food needed by African Americans grown 100% by AA / African(diasporan) nations
WHY?

• Insulate the health / food security of African Americans from genetic, biological, and economic(embargo) based attacks on food sources by non-African entities.
• Insulate the political health of African Americans from reliance on foreign entities who use food insecurities to push political agendas in exchange for food.

7. Civil infrastructure needed by African Americans constructed 100% by AA / African(diasporan) nations
WHY?

• Insulate the civil infrastructure of African Americans from embedded structural attacks via reliance on construction & maintenance by non-African entities.
• Insulate the political health of AA from reliance on foreign entities who use infrastructure insecurities to push political agendas in exchange for construction & maintenance.

8. Entertainment/cultural material consumed created 100% by AA / African(diasporan) nations
WHY?

• Insulation from foreign political priorities, cultural values, and ideologies that hamper the individual, family, & community(stability, growth, & security) of African Americans.
• To be free of outside entities controlling AA cultural material(by extension manipulating AA worldview & cultural values) via controlling AA entertainment finance.

9. Educational (funding, world view, theory, content, curriculum, books, & instruction) facilitated 100% by A.A.
WHY?

• Insulation from foreign political priorities, cultural values, and ideologies that hamper the individual, family, & community(stability, growth, & security) of African Americans.
• To be free of outside entities controlling AA cultural material(by extension manipulating AA worldview & cultural values) via controlling AA education finance.

10. Transportation & telecommunications infrastructure facilitated 100% by A.A./ African(diasporan) nations
WHY?

• Insulate the transportation & telecommunications of African Americans from embedded structural attacks via reliance on construction & maintenance by non-African entities.
• Insulate the political health of AA from reliance on foreign entities who use infrastructure insecurities to push political agendas in exchange for construction & maintenance.
• To have the ability to secure communication and transportation; insulated from economic(embargo) based attacks via a channel not majority controlled by the political / economic apparatus of Europeans(whites).

11. Live only in states where African Americans are the governor
WHY?

• To be free of state wide laws, enforcement, and sentencing that target / hamper the individual, family, & community(stability, growth, & security) of African Americans. without accountability.(Examples: city emergency management, national guard based martial law, electoral gerrymandering, etc.).

Note:
What caused you to even ask this kind of question?

I came across the Excerpt 1 below of a south African saying that African Americans tried to merge with a people/country "that doesn't want you". That in turn remind me of Excerpt 2 below which was a Ghanaian saying when African Americans merge with with "America"(civil rights era conversation) AA will cease to be a distinct people.

Excerpt 1:
".................... In the summer of 2007, I spent time in Johannesburg, South Africa, working with government officials and activists to improve local elections. South Africans were generally friendly, but I was struck by how optimistic they were about the future of the country even though apartheid had only ended, like, 15 minutes ago (1991, to be exact). I couldn’t understand why they weren’t more enraged and bitter. One night at dinner, I asked one of my colleagues why.

“We’re here in a restaurant that you couldn’t eat at when you were 16 years old because of apartheid. That’s not ancient history. That’s high school. Doesn’t that make you angry still?” I asked. “The last ‘Whites Only’ sign was probably taken down 10 years before I was born—but black Americans are still pissed about racism, past and ongoing.”

She considered my question for a minute, probably thinking of a way to explain a lot of complicated history to an American outsider.

“Well, we got our country back,” she said. “We’re home; it’s our land. You fought and you’re still in a place that doesn’t want you.” ....................."


BY: JASON JOHNSON
Posted: December 9, 2016
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Excerpt 2:

Ghanaian - "I feel sorry for you black Americans "
Horace - "Why?"
Ghanaian - "If we succeed in our struggle in Ghana we'll have a nation, but if you succeed in your struggle you will disappear ...you become an american"​

Spoiler

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Now I disagree with those analysis for various reasons most of which being the civil rights era wasn't about merging with anyone. In the big scheme of things it was AA gaining the capacity to administrate & enforce law over ourselves. Though I know that interpretation doesn't sit well with some people. I'm from the south were all levels of government is ran whole/in part by African Americans so I view a lot of the stuff I hear on thecoli(especially people who live outside the south / in suburbs) about white people this & that and think why don't you just move away from places where white people govern(law, education, policing power, etc) over your immediate locality Half the stuff I'm hearing are things I didn't grow up worrying about down here in B'ham AL(greater U.S. black belt region) Which all leads back to the question at hand...

Can African Americans exist in the U.S. "insulated" from white America?



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[Kokoro]

By insulated do you mean segregated?

We tried that twice. Seneca Village and Black Wall Street White racists have done some evil shyt to us

 

[UpAndComing]

If Black people as a whole became more business minded segregated from White society, the white society would die tomorrow. It is the ONLY way we can go back to prosperity. But alot of us don't see it that way apparently


The Black Lives Matter movement showed you most Blacks themselves don't want to be segregated

Massa please love us

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

By insulated do you mean segregated?

We tried that twice. Seneca Village and Black Wall Street White racists have done some evil shyt to us

By insulated I mean within the context provided in the post.

Question:
Do you feel it's possible for African Americans to exist in the United States within the following context?


Context:
1. %100 Finance(staff, ads, & living/travel expenses) of African American politics(city, county, state, & federal reps)
2. Employment of African Americans facilitated 85%-100% by African Americans
3. Administration, legal position/drafting, enactment, repeal, & enforcement(city, county, & state) by 60%-100% African Americans per jurisdiction
4. (federal representation) legal position & drafting 100% by African Americans
5. Foreign trade relations of A.A. companies conducted and facilitated %100 by African Americans
6. Food needed by African Americans grown 100% by AA / African(diasporan) nations
7. Civil infrastructure needed by African Americans constructed 100% by AA / African(diasporan) nations
8. Entertainment/cultural material consumed created 100% by AA / African(diasporan) nations
9. Educational (funding, world view, theory, content, curriculum, books, & instruction) facilitated 100% by A.A.
10. Transportation & telecommunications infrastructure facilitated 100% by A.A./ African(diasporan) nations
11. Live only in states where African Americans are the governor

To be succinct I mean...
Live solely within legal jurisdictions where African Americans govern.
At the city, county, and state level; while sending state representatives(senate & congress) to deal with federal level issues via a black caucus.

 

[Larry Lobster]

For what purpose?

 

[Kokoro]

By insulated I mean within the context provided in the post.




To be succinct I mean...
Live solely within legal jurisdictions where African Americans govern.
Be it the city, county, or state level; while sending state representatives(senate & congress) to deal with federal level issues via a black caucus.

Black Wall Street was the closest to that. So youre basically describing a situation for blacks similar to reservations? With our own government?

 

[George's Dilemma]

No other ethnic minorities in this country are insulated. Why would it be any different with us? The only thing I'd say about Black Americans in modern times is, we could do a whole lot better economically if finances were kept more in house. So the answer to the question is can Black people be more insulated than what their current status is similar to Jews, Asians, Cubans, etc..

 

[videogamestashbox.com]

By insulated do you mean segregated?

We tried that twice. Seneca Village and Black Wall Street White racists have done some evil shyt to us

If Black people as a whole became more business minded segregated from White society, the white society would die tomorrow. But alot of us don't see it that way apparently


The Black Lives Matter movement showed you most Blacks themselves don't want to be segregated

Massa please love us

We need common terms here.
Working definitions (subject to cleaning up)
Segregated - to live under the legal jurisdiction of an alien cultural group who have designated where you live and how you are uniquely treated by law.
Separated - to live under the legal jurisdiction of a shared cultural group who have designated how you are equally treated by law.

 

[Cynic]

If Black people as a whole became more business minded segregated from White society, the white society would die tomorrow. It is the ONLY way we can go back to prosperity. But alot of us don't see it that way apparently


The Black Lives Matter movement showed you most Blacks themselves don't want to be segregated

Massa please love us

Even if we did become manufacturers and producers..without a white consumer base ..who are you going to sell to ?

Racist ass latinos ? other black people ?

We need to look at what's best for business first then move towards philanthropy...

I'd rather have multiple huge companies selling to and employing every race ( but black owned )
and creating a black overclass of wealthy families while forming relationships with diaspora blacks

Then move forward with lobbying and other initiatives

 

[UpAndComing]

Even if we did become manufacturers and producers..without a white consumer base ..who are you going to sell to ?

Racist ass latinos ? other black people ?

We need to look at what's best for business first then move towards philanthropy...

I'd rather have multiple huge companies selling to and employing every race ( but black owned )
and creating a black overclass of wealthy families while forming relationships with diaspora blacks

Then move forward with lobbying and other initiatives

This is an extremely elementary mindset that every business has a face

Many of the successful businesses that are household names don't not have a face as to which person of a certain race owns it

Plus don't lower your market value that low into thinking other races won't buy from us. Hip Hop is one big example

 

[69 others]

No and it's a stupid idea to try to be. All we have to do is take care of our current communities

 

[MikeyC]

Some of those proposals make it sound like the author wants an independent majority black nation, of which here are already many.

This is an extremely elementary mindset that every business has a face

Many of the successful businesses that are household names don't not have a face as to which person of a certain race owns it

Plus don't lower your market value that low into thinking other races won't buy from us. Hip Hop is one big example

It took multiple crossover hits and white figures for white people to accept hip hop, doe.

 

[Egomaniacal1]

“Well, we got our country back,” she said. “We’re home; it’s our land. You fought and you’re still in a place that doesn’t want you.” ....................."

This quote is accurate and says alot. It why i say African Americans who are really serious about their generations not dealing with high levels of racism, as we do here, should be trying to get to Africa and reforming the continent.

To answer your question the first thing you should understand is that out of segregation came integration...but it's black who were integrated into white society and that will forever be the way it is. They have the numbers, they have and continue to maintain white supremacist control. So now your question is can blacks basically live on their own "locally governed island(s)" within a white country? Well A you wouldn't want to, you're basically sitting ducks if whites want to hit you with a BWS strike 2.0....and B even if we could it wouldn't last long because there is no place whites won't go within a white country and because of white supremacy they have very little fear of coming into your home to find ways to keep dominating us.

 

[UpAndComing]

Some of those proposals make it sound like the author wants an independent majority black nation, of which here are already many.





It took multiple crossover hits and white figures for white people to accept hip hop, doe.

Just like it took Wilt Chamberlain, Russell, Oscar Roberston, and Kareem to make the "whites only" NBA an multi-million dollar empire

Or Jackie Robinson and Willie Mays to save the MLB from it's dying ratings

So what's your point?

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Some of those proposals make it sound like the author wants an independent majority black nation, of which here are already many.





It took multiple crossover hits and white figures for white people to accept hip hop, doe.

this is false