Can someone here please tell me what exactly Obama's legacy is?

[Koba St]

I genuinely want to know what he's leaving behind after 8yrs.

Obamacare is about to be destroyed by Trump

His deal with Iran will also be destroyed by Trump

Guantanamo is still open. A Bush legacy

TPP again will be destroyed by Trump

It's not much of a legacy if your successor can come in and easily destroy it within months now is it?

His foreign 'policy' is a joke. Has done absolutely nothing in the Middle East and sat by while Russia slowly increases its influence in the area

He did absolutely nothing in Africa which wildly celebrated when he won but Bush actually did more on Africa than this man.

Should I even talk about the African American situation?

I know there are lots of Obama fans in here so if you guys could school me on what you genuinely think is his legacy I would be glad to learn but right now i honesty can't think of any.

He came in as this symbol of hope and leaves behind a country more divided, more hateful, and America weakened abroad. This is my take on the man and he's been nothing but a massive failure.

 

[Cynic]

He gave great speeches and had charisma

 

[levitate]

It's tough to say. You'll really have to wait 4-8 years to develop a true assessment.

But generally speaking, I'd say healthcare reform and the positive economic turn around.
As you note, the new administration has the keys and can gut the ACA. But ACA was a catalyst to much needed healthcare reform...and I don't see the next administration axing what are seen on both sides as good elements. (We've already seen Trump walk back on some items)
The economy speaks for itself. Is it perfect? No. But, are we objectively better off in numerous categories than we were 8 years ago? Absolutely.

Again, it's tough to say at this point. Kinda depends on how Trump's alternatives turn out.

 

[#StarkSet]

Helped out transgendered





That's about it

 

[Robbie3000]

The man guided the country with a calm and steady hand out of one of the worst economic downturns since the depression. I may disagree with some of the policies that favored banks, but that was no small feat.

Imagine Trump and his cronies taking office during a crisis in 2009.

 

[King Kreole]

I've been saying this for the longest, breh is not a great president. He simply doesn't have the stats. The only thing he can fall back on is stewarding the economic ship during the recession and not sinking it (and even recovery hasn't been great), but everything else is looking hella funny in the light.

 

[Koba St]

The man guided the country with a calm and steady hand out of one of the worst economic downturns since the depression. I may disagree with some of the policies that favored banks, but that was no small feat.

Imagine Trump and his cronies taking office during a crisis in 2009.

Bullshyt. People trying to compare the 2008 economic crisis to the depression

The depression had Millions of people lining up to get food in the streets. The 2008 economic downturn was simply that, a downturn and eventually the economy would've gone up again, like it always does. Obama is certainly no FDR that's for sure.

 

[Robbie3000]

Bullshyt. People trying to compare the 2008 economic crisis to the depression

The depression had Millions of people lining up to get food in the streets. The 2008 economic downturn was simply that, a downturn and eventually the economy would've gone up again, like it always does. Obama is certainly no FDR that's for sure.

Your are literally too stupid to even debate.

 

[FAH1223]

I genuinely want to know what he's leaving behind after 8yrs.

Obamacare is about to be destroyed by Trump

His deal with Iran will also be destroyed by Trump

Guantanamo is still open. A Bush legacy

TPP again will be destroyed by Trump

It's not much of a legacy if your successor can come in and easily destroy it within months now is it?

His foreign 'policy' is a joke. Has done absolutely nothing in the Middle East and sat by while Russia slowly increases its influence in the area

He did absolutely nothing in Africa which wildly celebrated when he won but Bush actually did more on Africa than this man.

Should I even talk about the African American situation?

I know there are lots of Obama fans in here so if you guys could school me on what you genuinely think is his legacy I would be glad to learn but right now i honesty can't think of any.

He came in as this symbol of hope and leaves behind a country more divided, more hateful, and America weakened abroad. This is my take on the man and he's been nothing but a massive failure.

Obamacare won't be completely rolled back

Iran Deal isn't just with the U.S. The Chinese, Russians, and Europeans all signed that deal and they have vested interests with Iran... China and Russia obviously more so with closer economic and military cooperation. Additionally with the Iran Deal, the sanctions regime can't be brought back. Why? So many countries who are US allies said fukk the sanctions while accepting them officially by trading with Iran in mutual currencies and gold. India and Turkey being the main culprits with others such as South Korea doing the same to import their oil from Tehran. This definitely threatened dollar hegemony which John Kerry even acknowledged.

TPP isn't destroyed by Trump but he is a big part of it. Labor and other progressives had a say about it for the last 18 months too. Obama definitely betrayed progressives throughout his terms.

The Middle East was misjudged greatly with the Arab Spring. Regime change activities too...

African Americans expecting him to help them specifically were misguided in thinking that in 2008

He did help get the country out of the recession. But his biggest failure was also his party's failure of NOT taking advantage of 2009 and 2010 with having a robust messaging system.

The stimulus should have been $1.5 trillion and more to infrastructure.

The Dodd-Frank bill wasn't good enough. He took money from bankers in 2008, so it sucks that his DOJ couldn't prosecute the crooks. He definitely had the political capital to do it in early 2009!

There should have been a public option and insurance selling across state lines in the ACA.

No immigration reform.

Also, Gitmo may not be closed but it's gotten emptied out significantly. There's only 60 detainees left... there was 4 times as much in 2009.

Overall, with the campaign he ran in 2008, the Dems controlling Congress for two years... they could have done so much more. I do realize a lot of blue dog Dems were in the House... but even still.

 

[Koba St]

I've been saying this for the longest, breh is not a great president. He simply doesn't have the stats. The only thing he can fall back on is stewarding the economic ship during the recession and not sinking it (and even recovery hasn't been great), but everything else is looking hella funny in the light.

Not even his ardent supporters will call him a great president.

Your are literally too stupid to even debate.

You compared the great depression in 1929 which changed American history with that pathetic 2008 economic downturn and yet I'm the stupid one. Alright breh

 

[hashmander]

maybe his legacy will be the shytty state of america he inherited economically and handed over a country to trump in much better shape that he got it in.

the prison population is less today than it was when he came into office. i hope you all care enough to track law and order trump's stats, doubt it though because that doesn't affect you.

these shyts generally play out over decades anyway, what's good today could be bad tomorrow so whatever.

 

[hashmander]

Not even his ardent supporters will call him a great president.

You compared the great depression in 1929 which changed American history with that pathetic 2008 economic downturn and yet I'm the stupid one. Alright breh

i guess that's a part of his legacy too, dumb c*nts like you can talk slick about how 2007-2009 was some pathetic minor shyt after the fact.

 

[ill]

How about keeping it simple. Part of Obama's legacy is that he broke the racial divide and became the first black President of the USA. Given our history of slavery and oppression of black people, this is a monumental achievement and it will provide tremendous hope for those wearing similar shoes. He did a decent to above-average job managing the country and will be known as a success.

 

[keepemup]

fakkitry, illegal immigrants and unaffordable healthcare .

 

[Scoop]

He was a good administrator of the country, but policy-wise, he didn't do much.