Can we put to bed the myth that the Takeover was the "factual" diss?

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just what the booth needs, another ether vs takeover thread :banderas:


ether facts:

-hawaiian sophie fame, kept my name in his music :ahh:
-:krs: already made an album called blueprint
-first biggies your man, then u got the nerve to say that u better than big :ahh:
-shawn carter to jay z, damn u on jaz dikk (and yea i know theres some story about jay namin himself after a train :beli:)
-how much of biggies lines is gonna come out your fat lips :ahh:

and now lets look at what ISNT facts on takeover

-hov callin nas a faq model (cuz ether is the immature name callin diss, right :rudy:)
-your bodyguards oochie wally verse better than yours, jays opinions of how good nas' albums were (yea u can point out sales but "it was written was :ehh:" is not a fact :heh:)
-you made it a hot line, i made it a hot song
-had a spark when you started, now ur just garbage

i listedned to these back to back and i still dont get how jay stans have spun this perception that "takeover is all facts, but ether isnt: :heh:
 

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Why even make the thread? Ether was the superior track and ended the battle. You can say Jay won the war but thats neither here nor there. If someone says Takeover was better, laugh in their face and move on. :yeshrug:
 

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Worst myth in hip hop

Second worst myth is that Em washed Jay on Renegade (Jay was slightly better)
 

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Nah TS! We need to put u to bed, its 2013 for #@&k sake. Move on, Jay and Nas certainly have
 
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"Takeover" is the WEAKEST diss from an elite rapper EVER...

There is no DISS in that song...

Prodigy was in a Michael Jackson Thriller outfit, not a ballerina costume...The rest of the song was about Jay Z saying how much richer he is...But that's what Jay Z does in damn near every song...

The Nas stuff is not even a DISS at ALL...It sounds more like a school girl whispering and gossiping to her friends about another girl she used to be cool with...

Jay Z should have come out with "Super Ugly" the same way 2Pac came out with "Hit em up"...

You go straight for the juggular, and make it impossible for the next dude to reply...

"Takeover" is still one of my favourite Jay Z songs, but it's mainly because of the delivery and beat, as a diss record, it holds no weight...

'96 Prodigy would have dented Jay Z's career, with a reply to "Takeover"...
 

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Takeover completely shyt on naS... what Jay didnt account for was the homosexuality of the naS fan base and NY in general. Hov destroyed that chump
 
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Takeover completely shyt on naS... what Jay didnt account for was the homosexuality of the naS fan base and NY in general. Hov destroyed that chump
It's ironic that you are able to type that, while holding Jay Z's penis in one hand, and juggling his testes with the other...

Unless you are being sarcastic...

"Ether" was not a great diss either, but it was sufficient for a weak diss like "Takeover," the reception of "Ether" speaks volumes...

Hip Hop decided that Nas won that battle...A few Jay Z fans can't revise that...
 

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It's ironic that you are able to type that, while holding Jay Z's penis in one hand, and juggling his testes with the other...

Unless you are being sarcastic...

"Ether" was not a great diss either, but it was sufficient for a weak diss like "Takeover," the reception of "Ether" speaks volumes...

Hip Hop decided that Nas won that battle...A few Jay Z fans can't revise that...
nah, the Chicago poll had Jay winnin by a hefty margin. Takeover was a great diss, but like Lupe said... "top rhymin to some boxed ears, just a waste of my timin"
 

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It's been 12 years. I think everything that has needed to be said, has been said. New York said Nas won. Jay even said Nas won. They stopped talking about this in 2003. They let bygones be bygones in 2005. It's just sort of sad that people are still talking about it like it happened last week. It's done. Over. Accept the results. Move on.
 
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