Can we talk about how nintendo still gives a shyt about split screen.

[Scustin Bieburr]

In the 2000s that shyt started going away for two reasons:
1. Games were already running like ass. If you render the same image multiple times for split screen that makes performance worse. We'd get games running at 60fps in single player then 30fps for multi-player.

2. Its lucrative to force people to pay for your online subscription by removing the option to just play the game with your friends for free.

But we really are getting to the point where even a top of the line videocard can't guarantee a locked 120fps or 60fps at max settings. The Nintendo direct showed off games with split screen options. They know families buy consoles and want to play together. They know it's ridiculous to expect a couple living in the same home to each buy a second console, second game, separate TV, and separate online subscription to play with each other.

Performance wise we are at a point of diminishing returns. The biggest new graphics tech(ray tracing) is really a development time saving technology and most people don't see an obvious difference between a game with path tracing and a game without it.

So at this point, do you think developers will focus more on performance and optimizing the art style so the game looks good and runs well on split screen? Do you want that to be common again?

 

[Kamikaze Revy]

This gen really did make me feel stupid for buying 4 controllers for PS5 and XBOX

 

[Wildin]

In the 2000s that shyt started going away for two reasons:
1. Games were already running like ass. If you render the same image multiple times for split screen that makes performance worse. We'd get games running at 60fps in single player then 30fps for multi-player.

2. Its lucrative to force people to pay for your online subscription by removing the option to just play the game with your friends for free.

But we really are getting to the point where even a top of the line videocard can't guarantee a locked 120fps or 60fps at max settings. The Nintendo direct showed off games with split screen options. They know families buy consoles and want to play together. They know it's ridiculous to expect a couple living in the same home to each buy a second console, second game, separate TV, and separate online subscription to play with each other.

Performance wise we are at a point of diminishing returns. The biggest new graphics tech(ray tracing) is really a development time saving technology and most people don't see an obvious difference between a game with path tracing and a game without it.

So at this point, do you think developers will focus more on performance and optimizing the art style so the game looks good and runs well on split screen? Do you want that to be common again?

They almost have it right with game share.

A few more titles are coming out. With everyone having switches if one person has the game, it's nice to be able to play with 2-4 other people who don't have it.

With Mario party and kart they basically let people play a trial version but there's a couple of titles everyone can play in full.

That's what games need to be.

 

[ORDER_66]

I mean it's nice and all BUT most people play games online against other people not in the same house...

 

[The_Sheff]

I mean it's nice and all BUT most people play games online against other people not in the same house...

It's a large market for families out there though. I have two boys and I'll buy just about any decent game for them that has local multi-player. It's why they stick mostly to the Switch, it's a struggle to find something for them to play together on the other consoles.

 

[Return of the Jedi]

No, the Arcadium can never acknowledge Nintendo's positive contributions to the industry. Mario Kart World is $80.

 

[ORDER_66]

It's a large market for families out there though. I have two boys and I'll buy just about any decent game for them that has local multi-player. It's why they stick mostly to the Switch, it's a struggle to find something for them to play together on the other consoles.

Of course its always good to have options... i never said it wasnt it just feels like an afterthought to me. like you wanna add split screen for family member to play ok. so just do so. it doesnt need to be a big deal.

 

[NotAnFBIagent]

It's a large market for families out there though. I have two boys and I'll buy just about any decent game for them that has local multi-player. It's why they stick mostly to the Switch, it's a struggle to find something for them to play together on the other consoles.

Sports games, fighting games, Fortnite, call of duty all have local multiplayer or split screen

 

[Wildin]

I mean it's nice and all BUT most people play games online against other people not in the same house...

Nah. Pretty sure children still have siblings and want to play games together.

 

[Phantum]

Gotta give props for Nintendo keeping the old school local multi player options alive. I don't want my son communicating with a bunch of weirdos online so I get a lot of of the local stuff and he can play with his friends.

If you have a kids birthday party at your home having a switch is a godsend lol.

 

[feelosofer]

To be fair a lot of families with young children do not want their children playing online and there is still a market for local multiplayer. The Nintendo gets crazy burn when my nieces and nephews come over.