Can What Is Happening In Gaza Be Considered Genocide? An Israeli Professor Answers..

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People are asking whether what is happening in Gaza is genocide or not.

Here we have Raz Segal.

Raz Segal (Hebrew: רז סגל) is an Israeli historian residing in the United States who directs the Master of Arts in Holocaust and Genocide Studies program at Stockton University.









Textbook Genocide:
 
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If it is, it's the worst, least effective genocide in history. :russ: Them Israelis been trying to wipe the Palestinians off the map for damn near a century now.
 

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In doubt, I always check the definitions.

Genocide: the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group

Exterminate: to get rid of by destroying; destroy totally; extirpate

Only points of contention that I could see with qualifying this war as genocide are that:

a) The Gazans are being destroyed systematically but not totally, so it's not extermination;

-> Weak rebuttal because the Holocaust or the Native American cleansing, or any known "genocide" for that matter would not be genocide then

b) The Gazans are being exterminated systematically but not deliberately; they are the collateral damage and not the real target, which is Hamas hiding among them

-> Assuming that Israel doesn't want Gazan civilians to die (another point of contention in and of itself), now it becomes a debate about what is deliberate and what is not. If you know in advance the negative consequence of an action you choose to undertake, are you responsible for it?

If you don't really want to systematically exterminate people but your mean of getting rid of Hamas is to systematically exterminate people, and you know it, is that deliberate or not?

Similar debate among historians has long existed when it comes to the Indigenous people "genocides" and settler-colonialism.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_Indigenous_peoples

The concept of genocide was coined in 1944 by Raphael Lemkin:[18]

"New conceptions require new terms. By "genocide" we mean the destruction of a nation or of an ethnic group. This new word, coined by the author to denote an old practice in its modern development, is made from the ancient Greek word genos (race, tribe) and the Latin cide (killing), thus corresponding in its formation to such words as tyrannicide, homicide, infanticide, etc. Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups. Genocide is directed against the national group as an entity, and the actions involved are directed against individuals, not in their individual capacity, but as members of the national group."

After World War II and The Holocaust, this concept of genocide was adopted by the United Nations in 1948. For Lemkin, genocide was broadly defined and it included all attempts to destroy a specific ethnic group, whether they are strictly physical, through mass killings, or whether they are strictly cultural or psychological, through oppression and through the destruction of indigenous ways of life.[18]

The UN's definition, which is used in international law, is narrower than Lemkin's definition, and it also states that genocide is: "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group," as such:[19]

(a) "Killing members of the group;"(b) "Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;"(c) "Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;"(d) "Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;"(e) "Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."
The determination of whether a historical event should or should not be considered a genocide can be a matter of scholarly debate. Historians often draw on broader definitions such as Lemkin's, which sees colonialist violence against indigenous peoples as inherently genocidal.[20] For example, in the case of the colonization of the Americas, where the indigenous people of the Americas declined by up to 90% in the first[clarification needed] centuries of European colonization, how much of the population decline is attributable to genocide is debatable because disease is considered the main cause of this decline due to the fact that the introduction of disease was partially unintentional.[21][22] Some genocide scholars separate the population declines which are due to disease from the genocidal aggression of one group towards another.[23] Some scholars argue that an intent to commit a genocide is not needed, because a genocide may be the cumulative result of minor conflicts in which settlers, colonial agents or state agents perpetrate violent acts against minority groups.[6] Others argue that the dire consequences of European diseases among many New World populations were exacerbated by different forms of genocidal violence, and they also argue that intentional deaths and unintentional deaths cannot easily be separated from each other.[24][25] Some scholars regard the colonization of the Americas as genocide, since they argue it was largely achieved through systematically exploiting, removing and destroying specific ethnic groups, which would create environments and conditions for such disease to proliferate.[26][27][28]

According to a 2020 study by Tai S Edwards and Paul Kelton, recent scholarship shows "that colonizers bear responsibility for creating conditions that made natives vulnerable to infection, increased mortality, and hindered population recovery. This responsibility intersected with more intentional and direct forms of violence to depopulate the Americas... germs can no longer serve as the basis for denying American genocides."[29]
 
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