Can you actually prove John Cena isn't top ten?

[Straw Hat Luffy]

Can someone actually tell me some good reasons besides the goofy ass answer hes cheer on by kids and moms? Can you actually use a good counter point that a specific wrestler should go over Cena in the top ten?
"excluding Austin Rock Hogan etc..."

- He main events three of outta the five highest ppv buys for WWE ever
- He's got one of the most memorable debuts ever against Kurt Angle
- He made a suicide career gimmick "white rapper" legendary
- He's got classic feuds such as vs Edge, CM Punk
- He's got so many great matches too name
-He can own the crowd to his advantage anytime he wants, The neckbeards don't phase him
-Most make a wish foundation wishes granted ever
- Successful Rap album
- In movies The Marine, Trainwreck, Fred to tv shows such as Hannah Montana to Psych


Lets look at other goat memoriable moments
- Left his wife and won't put a ring on his new girl
- Legendary YJ Stinger and Subway commercials
- Put the belt on Eddie's shirt and walked out the ring
- The I quit match on Judgement day vs JBL when he bloody af
- fukked Kendra Lust
- Howerd Stern interview where he said he fukked 8 chicks at once and he fukk with the big girls
- One Night Stand where the fan threw his shirt back in the ring
- fukked mickie james and got her ass fired
- That time he was on nascar and the interviewer went past him
- Part of meme/internet history with "JOHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN CENAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
- Got a new trend with Cena and memes where they have a picture and the meme is like "who is she talking too?"
- Got in the booth with Wiz Khalifa
-His jersey era
many more moments that can be named tbh


He's had a lot of bad moments but most of his career is amazing

• Pro Wrestling Illustrated
  • Feud of the Year (2006) vs. Edge[374]
  • Feud of the Year (2011) vs. CM Punk[375]
  • Match of the Year (2007) vs. Shawn Michaels on Raw on April 23[376]
  • Match of the Year (2011) vs. CM Punk at Money in the Bank[377]
  • Match of the Year (2013) vs. Daniel Bryan at SummerSlam[378]
  • Match of the Year (2014) vs. Bray Wyatt in a Last Man Standing match at Payback[379]
  • Most Improved Wrestler of the Year (2003)[380]
  • Most Popular Wrestler of the Decade (2000–2009)
  • Most Popular Wrestler of the Year (2004, 2005, 2007, 2012)[381]
  • Wrestler of the Year (2006, 2007)[382]
  • Ranked 1 of the top 500 singles wrestlers in the PWI 500 in 2006, 2007, and 2013[383][384][385]
• Rolling Stone
  • Best Storyline (2015)[386] vs. Kevin Owens
  • Title Feud of the Year, WWE (2015)[386] vs. Everybody in the U.S. Open Challenge
  • WWE Match of the Year (2015)[386] vs. Kevin Owens at Money in the Bank
• Ultimate Pro Wrestling
  • UPW Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[37]
• World Wrestling Entertainment/WWE
  • World Heavyweight Championship (3 times)[387]
  • World Tag Team Championship (2 times)[388] – with Batista (1) and Shawn Michaels (1)
  • WWE Championship/WWE World Heavyweight Championship (12 times)[389]
  • WWE Championship #1 contenders Tournament (2003)
  • WWE Championship #1 contenders Tournament (2005)
  • WWE United States Championship (5 times)[390]
  • WWE Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with The Miz (1) and David Otunga (1)[153]
  • Money in the Bank (2012 – WWE Championship contract)
  • Royal Rumble (2008 and 2013)
  • Slammy Awards (10 times)
    • Game Changer of the Year (2011) – with The Rock
    • Hero in All of Us (2015)
    • Holy $#!+ Move of the Year (2010) – Sends Batista through the stage with an Attitude Adjustment
    • Insult of the Year (2012) – To Dolph Ziggler and Vickie Guerrero: "You're the exact opposite. One enjoys eating a lot of nuts and the other is still trying to find his"
    • Kiss of the Year (2012) – with AJ Lee
    • Match of the Year (2013, 2014) – vs. The Rock for the WWE Championship at WrestleMania 29, Team Cena vs. Team Authority at Survivor Series
    • Superstar of the Year (2009, 2010, 2012)
• Wrestling Observer Newsletter
  • 5 Star Match (2011) vs. CM Punk at Money in the Bank on July 17
  • Best Box Office Draw (2007)[391]
  • Best Gimmick (2003)[391]
  • Best on Interviews (2007)[391]
  • Feud of the Year (2011) vs. CM Punk
  • Match of the Year (2011) vs. CM Punk at Money in the Bank on July 17
  • Most Charismatic (2006–2010)
  • Most Charismatic of the Decade (2000–2009)
  • Wrestler of the Year (2007, 2010)

His show on Fox just got renewed for a second season.
He hosted the Espys and recently Teen Choice Awards


Cena's work rate has been amazing recently over the years. How many classics he has left and what else major things will he do out side of WWE?


Can you really prove to me that Cena isn't top ten?

 

[Riley Escobar]

Successful Rap album
- In movies The Marine, Trainwreck, Fred to tv shows such as Hannah Montana to Psych
- Left his wife and won't put a ring on his new girl
- Legendary YJ Stinger and Subway commercials
- Put the belt on Eddie's shirt and walked out the ring
- fukked Kendra Lust
- Howerd Stern interview where he said he fukked 8 chicks at once and he fukk with the big girls
- One Night Stand where the fan threw his shirt back in the ring
- fukked mickie james and got her ass fired
- That time he was on nascar and the interviewer went past him
- Part of meme/internet history with "JOHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN CENAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
- Got a new trend with Cena and memes where they have a picture and the meme is like "who is she talking too?"
- Got in the booth with Wiz Khalifa
His show on Fox just got renewed for a second season.
He hosted the Espys and recently Teen Choice Awards

nikka you have to be kidding with these bullshyt reasons

Being serious though I think when you take everything into account and look at it rationally there's a strong argument for him being top ten all time

 

[Gangstar8]

Arguable above stone cold below the rock

 

[Spyro]

I just wish he'd change up his character once in a while, he's been doing the same shyt for 11 years and counting and it's stale as fukk. Not turning heel or changing his character is why I don't think he ranks among the greats

But I'd defo put him top 15-20 yeah

 

[Piff Huxtable]

CeGOAT was top 10 all time five years ago breh

only question is if he is top 5 at this point

 

[Heelish]

at some of your reasons.

Can you actually use a good counter point that a specific wrestler should go over Cena in the top ten?
"excluding Austin Rock Hogan etc..."

I prefer Cena over those three white supremacists you mentioned. His feud with Punk is GOAT status and, thanks to #TSC, I went back to watch some of his feud with Edge and it was amazing.

 

[Stez]

Wrestling is a work breh. You can put who you want in your top ten.

 

[Piff Huxtable]

Twelve straight summers, critics might not admit it
But nobody in WWE did it, quite like he did it

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

Wrestling is a work breh. You can put who you want in your top ten.

you can be booked to win

you can't be booked to have the "it" factor

 

[Spyro]

you can be booked to win

you can't be booked to have the "it" factor

So using title wins as a reason for being top 10 is meaningless then isn't it?

If people think Cena is GOAT then fair enough, but using title wins and royal rumble wins and shyt to back it up is stupid. They're fake titles and just props really

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

So using title wins as a reason for being top 10 is meaningless then isn't it?

If people think Cena is GOAT then fair enough, but using title wins and royal rumble wins and shyt to back it up is stupid. They're fake titles and just props really

But if he's winning the wwe title more than ten times there's gotta be something behind it as in he's a major draw and business is at best with him on top.

That's how I look at it.

 

[mrken12]

But if he's winning the wwe title more than ten times there's gotta be something behind it as in he's a major draw and business is at best with him on top.

That's how I look at it.

Orton is a 12 time World Champion. I can barely even remember most of his runs.

 

[mrken12]

OP really mentioned the Fred movie as an accomplishment though?

Lets look at other goat memoriable moments
- Left his wife and won't put a ring on his new girl
- Legendary YJ Stinger and Subway commercials
- Put the belt on Eddie's shirt and walked out the ring
- The I quit match on Judgement day vs JBL when he bloody af
- fukked Kendra Lust
- Howerd Stern interview where he said he fukked 8 chicks at once and he fukk with the big girls
- One Night Stand where the fan threw his shirt back in the ring
- fukked mickie james and got her ass fired
- That time he was on nascar and the interviewer went past him
- Part of meme/internet history with "JOHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN CENAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
- Got a new trend with Cena and memes where they have a picture and the meme is like "who is she talking too?"
- Got in the booth with Wiz Khalifa
-His jersey era

You would have a convincing argument for this thread if you didn't include those things.

 

[The Rainmaker]

at Fred the Movie being used as a positive reason for anything.

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

OP really mentioned the Fred movie as an accomplishment though?

I was just trying to show how much diversity is in his career.


This basically ice cube going from nwa to are we there yet