Car audio question

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

4 way speakers vs. 2 way speakers. In your opinion, which is better?

I just copped some 4 way Pioneer speakers to replace my 2 way Pioneer speakers in the rear.

Here are my new 4 ways:


Here are my old 2 ways:


Of course 4 ways have better mids and highs. I'm just making sure I actually did an upgrade.

 

[DrunkenNovice]

it all depends on your music settings in your car. If you are someone who blasts bass you probably wont be able to hear a big difference.

Your 4 way's didnt show up btw. What player is in your car?

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

it all depends on your music settings in your car. If you are someone who blasts bass you probably wont be able to hear a big difference.

Your 4 way's didnt show up btw. What player is in your car?

Sorry. Here are my new 4 ways


This is my receiver


The receiver is okay. I liked my old Kenwood better though because I could actually control my mids and highs though the deck manually; you can't do that with the receiver I have now.

I ordered these tweeters to either replace my tweeters in the front, or be installed in the back seat doors


I'm ordering these 12s Subs to replace my 12s in the back. I can't figure out the type of kickers 12s I have in the back right now (the product number/code isn't visible for some reason )


So what do you think about my upgrades? Like you said, I blast bass, but I value my mids and highs too.

 

[DrunkenNovice]

The set up is good. If you are concerned about the mids and the highs. Amping the speakers is something you want to consider, because your receiver doesnt have enough power to get a whole lot of sound of the those speakers (most receivers wont have enough power for aftermarket speakers)

It seems good though. What amp are you using for the subs?

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

The set up is good. If you are concerned about the mids and the highs. Amping the speakers is something you want to consider, because your receiver doesnt have enough power to get a whole lot of sound of the those speakers (most receivers wont have enough power for aftermarket speakers)

It seems good though. What amp are you using for the subs?

I have 2 amplifiers: 1 powering my two 12in kickers and 1 powering all 4 of my speakers.

Here is the amplifier that powers my subwoofers ()

Here is the amplifier that powers my speakers:

The amp to my 12s ain't shyt. When I get my new 12in subs (the ones I linked in a previous post in this thread), I'm thinking of getting this amplifier to power it:


Only thing is is it's a monoblock 1-channel amplifier. Wouldn't I need a 2-channel amp to power two 12in subs?

 

[Ricky Church]

your pics still ain't showing up breh.

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

your pics still ain't showing up breh.

Jesus H. Christ! All right, give me a minute. I'll update the thread in an hour or so.

 

[DrunkenNovice]

yeah you def want to upgrade the subwoofer soon as you can.

To my understanding you can use a mono for two subs. and you would be okay doing it with that Amp and the Kicker enclosure you posted earlier.

I think I saw @GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy! posting about electronics before maybe he has more info.

 

[edzyy]

Your first mistake was adding speakers to the rears

Rears are useless as they pull your sound stage back

Less is more with car audio

Should've upgraded your fronts

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

yeah you def want to upgrade the subwoofer soon as you can.

To my understanding you can use a mono for two subs. and you would be okay doing it with that Amp and the Kicker enclosure you posted earlier.

I think I saw @GinaThatAintNoDamnPuppy! posting about electronics before maybe he has more info.

The 1200 amp I said I was going to get, or the amp pushing the current 12s I have?

 

[edzyy]

You gotta post pics and model #'s of what you have

Also, what car is this going in?

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

You gotta post pics and model #'s of what you have

Also, what car is this going in?

I dunno why the fukk the pics ain't working. I'm posting from fukkboy amazon. Ill try again in a minute

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

@Ricky Church @edzyy

Hope this works.

Old REAR speakers that need to be replaced:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Speakers/D-Series/TS-D1602R


New REAR speakers replacing said speakers:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Speakers/A-Series/TS-A1685R

Old door speaker component system:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Speakers/D-Series/TS-D1720C

New door speakers I may replace them with:

http://www.jbl.com/estore/jbl/us/products/P662/P662_JBL_US

Old amps I own:

Sub Amp:

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/p200-2

(Can't figure out what type of 12in kickers I have because I can't see the product model number)

Speaker Amp:

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/t400-4

Going to replace my 12in Subs and Sub Amp with this combination:

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_2064DW...19425&awat=pla&awnw=g&awcr=25048903825&awdv=c

http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/details/r1200-1d

All this is going in my 98 Nissan Maxima. Love my current system but my Rear speakers had a voice coil that went bad so I need to replace them and I'm in the mood to replace everything now, except perhaps my 4 channel speaker amp

 

[edzyy]

Ok, now I can see what you're doing

You're going about this the wrong way.

For example, replacing 20 dollar speakers with 30 dollar speakers will net you nothing in return.

You're just wasting money replacing entry level product with entry level product.

Speakers are the most important upgrade. Why? Well, they're gonna be playing 99% of the frequency range.

Bass? That's easy. Since you have a trunk, 2 12's or 2 15's infinite baffle behind the rear seat would be the best option for easy bass without spending a ton.

These set ups get loud, low, sound great, and need minimal amount of power.

You can peep this link to look at an infinite baffle install in an accord
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum.../147692-first-go-infinite-baffle-install.html

Measure both width and height behind the rear seat and see what the largest subs you can fit

Allocate most of your money into a good pair of component speakers upfront. And fukk that prefab kicker bullshyt. Rears? Keep the old ones there..they're truly useless.

Keep your Power T400-4 amp. It does 200 x 2 bridged which would be excellent for a pair of components.

This car audio shyt is pretty easy as long as you follow certain guidelines

 

[ThumpDaddy]

@Thatrogueassdiaz, that's looking good. The only problem I see that you have is with your subs and amp. The box that you have said that when you hook it up to an amp it's going to show the amp a 2-ohm load. Now the amp that you showed that you will be running said that it puts out 1,200 watts at a 1-ohm load. Now you can hook those subs up to the amp but you will not get the full power of the amp. You will probably be getting about 650-700 watts, which isn't bad but you want to get the full potential out of the amp.

You asked about how can a monoblock amp run more than one speaker. Well I have seen a monoblock amp run 8 subs at one time. They are designed to run subs. Now I'm not saying that you hook up 8 subs to your amp but you can easily do 2 subs. Now if you want to get the most out of your amp you can buy the speakers separately and get the box and have your installer wire the box up to show the amp a 1-ohm load. You will need to either buy two 4-ohm DVC subs or buy 2 SVC 2-ohm subs. Make sure that your installer wires them parallel. Then when he hooks them up to the amp, it will show the amp a 1-ohm load and your amp will perform at it's maximum potential. But overall you're set up sound good and it's almost the set up I have in my car.