Carl Sagan gets asked if hes a Socialist

[morris]

 

[Elim Garak]

This went viral about a week ago and on Twitter was trending dope video.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

For the youngins out there

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.history.com/.amp/news/reagan-star-wars-sdi-missile-defense

It was the original space force

 

[BigMoneyGrip]

Funny how he was ask being a socialist and then broke that shyt down and like clock work interviewer immediately changes the subject..

Sagan was the GOAT multi dimensional spitter

 

[AnonymityX1000]

No lies told.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Honestly I don't see the point in defending the label any more.

Just push for the policies you want and let the results speak for themselves. When you get stuck defending the label you get caged in language traps that prevent people from reaching out to help achieve these goals.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Honestly I don't see the point in defending the label any more.

Just push for the policies you want and let the results speak for themselves. When you get stuck defending the label you get caged in language traps that prevent people from reaching out to help achieve these goals.

You have to point out the hypocrisy. Socialism for the rich rugged individualism for everyone else was a good slogan.
People who don't like it throw the label around while ignoring the already existing socialist policies out there they are perfectly fine with.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You have to point out the hypocrisy. Socialism for the rich rugged individualism for everyone else was a good slogan.
People who don't like it throw the label around while ignoring the already existing socialist policies out there they are perfectly fine with.

I get that, but you gotta know where you're fighting. Instead of talking about socialism, talk about "well the government can do XYZ" and ignore anyone who tries to jacket it in "-ism"

Plus, a lot of these labels came AFTER the movements themselves.

Marx didn't call himself a "marxist" etc.

People are more attracted to the aesthetic than the actual work which is why none of this shyt goes anywhere.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

I get that, but you gotta know where you're fighting. Instead of talking about socialism, talk about "well the government can do XYZ" and ignore anyone who tries to jacket it in "-ism"

Plus, a lot of these labels came AFTER the movements themselves.

Marx didn't call himself a "marxist" etc.

People are more attracted to the aesthetic than the actual work which is why none of this shyt goes anywhere.

I can agree with that. I don't like idealogs who pigeonhole themselves. Socialism isn't great for everything and neither is capitalism. Apply what works best for whatever sector you are speaking about
But when being called a socialist by opponents point out there support for socialism in certain circumstances as well.

 

[Micky Mikey]

America should have taken his advice

Now we have the greatest wealth disparity in human history
The planet is burning and we're on the brink of collapse
And we have demagogue in the White House encouraging civil war if he loses the elections.

The sci fi dystopian future is playing out in real time.

 

[Elim Garak]

You have to point out the hypocrisy. Socialism for the rich rugged individualism for everyone else was a good slogan.
People who don't like it throw the label around while ignoring the already existing socialist policies out there they are perfectly fine with.

Yep also all these politicians that don't want government run health care use government run health care lmao.

 

[BobbyWojak]

Marx didn't call himself a "marxist" etc.

This is some "the man who invented college didn't attend college" logic lmao.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This is some "the man who invented college didn't attend college" logic lmao.

O...k...?

Theres arguments between people TODAY who debate marxism, marxist-leninism, trotskyism, etc.

To act like this isn't a debate is asinine.

Theres even DSA beef.

People are too drawn to being "not-democrats" that they go down these rabbit holes of bullshyt that let them pretend they're getting things done instead of arguing about who's read more "theory"

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

America should have taken his advice

Now we have the greatest wealth disparity in human history
The planet is burning and we're on the brink of collapse
And we have demagogue in the White House encouraging civil war if he loses the elections.

The sci fi dystopian future is playing out in real time.

what advice?

He didn't offer anything but the same critique progressives were trotting out in the early 20th century.

Advance the policy, forget the label.

 

[hashmander]

the guardian just had a Q&A with the great Arsene Wenger (it's Wumger when I'm talking about his last few years managing) and someone from India asked him the same question.

Arsène Wenger: ‘I try to read everything that helps me understand human beings’

Arsène, are you a socialist?
Nabhas, India

What is socialist for you? For me, a socialist is trusting connectivity to sort the problems of a society. First, you need a collective environment that favours the expression of the individual. After that, I think it’s down to an individual’s initiative to make the most of their life. But the dominant thing is a collective environment for me.