‘Caste is anti-Asian hate’: the activists fighting ‘less visible’ discrimination in the US

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Thenmozhi Soundararajan calls the California bill the ‘culmination of a life’s work’. Photograph: The Washington Post/Getty Images


Thenmozhi Soundararajan has spent her life battling for equity. Now California could pass a landmark law protecting it


Thenmozhi Soundararajan had one of her earliest encounters with India’s ancient caste ladder when she was 10, during a playdate at a friend’s house not long after immigrating to the US.

When Soundararajan revealed that she belongs to a caste once known as “untouchables” – also known by the Sanskrit term “Dalit” – her friend’s mother, with a disgusted look, asked her to eat communal snacks on a separate plate so she could not taint the rest of the family.


“Caste is one of the most severe versions of anti-Asian hate,” said Soundararajan, now one of the US’s pre-eminent Dalit feminists, “but it’s not as visible because it’s hate amongst us.”

Soundararajan spent the following three decades advancing the civil rights of Dalits like herself and her parents, who fall at the bottom of the caste system, which is woven into many religions across south Asia. In the diaspora, it often leads to intra-community violence that can be hard for outsiders to understand. A multimedia storyteller and musician, Soudararajan has produced a documentary, a podcast and a new book, The Trauma of Caste, on caste oppression. In 2015, she founded the Oakland, California-based Equality Labs, the largest Dalit civil rights organization in the US, which conducted the first survey on caste discrimination in the US.

California, which has one of the largest south Asian populations in the country, has become ground zero for the caste equity movement.

In 2020, state regulators sued the technology company Cisco, alleging that two high-caste Indian managers had discriminated against a Dalit engineer by subjecting him to lower pay and inferior terms of employment. Last year, California State University became the first university system to add caste as a protected category to its anti-discrimination policy. And last month, California lawmakers introduced a new bill that would make the state the first in the nation to add caste as a protected category to its anti-discrimination laws. (In February, Seattle became the first US city to enshrine caste protections into its constitution.)

For Soundararajan, the legislation felt like a watershed moment for the caste equity movement that she helped build.

“It’s a culmination of a life’s work, both living under the trauma of caste and turning that pain into power,” she said. “I wish I could tell my younger self that it’s going to be OK.”

Caste in America

The Indian caste system, which dates back three thousand years, divides Hindus by birth into four categories that determine their place in society. Brahmins, members of the highest caste, have historically served as priests and teachers. Dalits, who fall outside of the caste system, work as street sweepers and toilet cleaners.

According to the 2016 study by Equality Labs, which surveyed 1,500 south Asian Americans, two out of three Dalits in the US reported being mistreated by other south Asians at work because of their caste, one in four said they had endured verbal or physical assault, and one in three said they had experienced discrimination in school. The oppression they describe is wide-ranging, from slurs and sexual harassment to unfair hiring and termination practices. One of the most notorious cases of caste discrimination in California involves Lakireddy Bali Reddy, an upper-caste landlord who trafficked and sexually abused more than two dozen Dalit girls.
 

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Thenmozhi Soundararajan and V (formerly Eve Ensler) in New York, 2017. Photograph: D Dipasupil/Getty Images


Sonja Thomas, an associate professor at Colby College in Maine who researches the intersections of caste, race and religion in postcolonial India, said that studying south Asian migration history was a helpful way to understand the caste system, which affects nearly 2 billion people worldwide and 6 million south Asian Americans.

The 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act brought in a wave of highly skilled professionals, such as doctors, scientists and engineers, from Asian countries. A vast majority of these highly skilled immigrants from South Asia, Thomas said, had come from educated, upper-caste families. In 1990, Congress created the H1B visa program for skilled foreign workers, creating an influx of tech workers from India who largely hail from dominant castes. (Three-quarters of H1B visas issued in 2021 went to Indian nationals, according to the state department.) A Carnegie Mellon University survey on Indian Hindus in the US found that 87% were born into a dominant caste. Only 1% identified as Dalit.

Because dominant-caste immigrants had arrived in the US first, Thomas said, they had accrued the social and political capital to define south Asian American minority culture, which meant replicating the caste structure that made Dalits second-class citizens.

“The dominant-caste profile of south Asian immigrants in the US creates an environment where violence and hostility can thrive,” Thomas said. “You can be a religious minority and still perpetuate caste discrimination.”

The fight against caste discrimination

Soundararajan describes the caste-abolition movement in the US as “interfaith and multiracial and very queer”. Equality Labs has built longstanding partnerships with groups including Black Lives Matter and a host of prominent labor unions, such as the California Faculty Association.

“We really see caste as a workers’ rights issue, a queer issue and a gender justice issue,” she said. “That intersectionality is crucial to our wins.”

Thomas said two high-profile cases in recent years had helped bring more mainstream attention in the US to the plight of Dalits. The first was the suicide of Rohith Vemula, a Dalit research scholar in India who was expelled from university housing over a caste-related dispute with a rightwing student group. The other was the Cisco lawsuit, which shed light on the subtler forms of injustice Dalit engineers endure in the tech sector in the US.

Over the past decade, Soundararajan and other Dalit rights activists have zoned in on Silicon Valley, where caste discrimination is rampant due to the abundance of south Asians immigrants at big tech forms. While advocacy from groups such as Equality Labs have pushed Facebook, Twitter and Google to add caste as a protected category of content moderation, these companies have yet to adopt caste in their human resources guidelines.

“When those protections are not clarified in a very public form like a bill or an ordinance,” Soundararajan said, “companies are choosing when to implement civil rights and labor codes that protect caste-oppressed workers.”

Growing vitriol and violence

As her influence grew, Soundararajan became, like many Dalit rights activists, a target of increasing vitriol and violence. When she “came out” as Dalit at 19, while studying at UC Berkeley, she said, all but one of her upper-caste Indian professors refused to advise her on projects. Over the years, she’s received so many death and rape threats against herself and her family that she’s had to move into a safe house for a period.

California’s anti-caste bill now faces stiff resistance from Hindu advocacy groups. Prominent groups, such as the Hindu American Foundation and the Coalition of Hindus of North America, say legislation like SB403 unfairly targets Hindus, an ethnic minority group whose members already experience discrimination.

It’s not the first time these accusations have been made. In 2018, Soundararajan created a poster with the slogan “Smash Brahmanical Patriarchy” to raise awareness about the vitriol that Dalit activists were facing on Twitter. A photo of Twitter’s former CEO Jack Dorsey holding the sign created a political firestorm in India, quickly forcing the company to issue an apology. Last April, she was invited to speak about caste discrimination at Google. But the talk was canceled after a number of Google employees protested, telling HR that they feared for their lives and calling Soundararajan “Hindu-phobic” in internal message boards.

Tanuja Gupta, a former senior people manager at Google News who invited Soundararajan to speak, resigned from the company after facing repercussions for pushing back. When she challenged Google’s decision to cancel the talk, Gupta said, the company lowered her performance rating and made her ineligible for promotion.


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The California state senator Aisha Wahab, center right, with Thenmozhi Soundararajan, right, following a news conference where she proposed SB403. Photograph: José Luis Villegas/AP

Gupta said the employees who opposed the talk, similar to the groups protesting the anti-caste bill, were in bad faith conflating a human rights issue with one of religious freedom.

Caste equity “is not a Hindu issue”, she said. “It’s a civil rights issue where people of a certain category are denied their rights in terms of education, socioeconomic opportunity and housing, while being disproportionately subjected to violence.”

The argument for separating caste and religious freedom, Gupta said, has parallels in prominent US civil rights causes.

“When we talk about LGBTQ+ rights in this country, we don’t say that that’s anti-Christian,” she said. “When we talk about gender equity in this country, we don’t say that that’s anti-Judeo-Christian because of certain ways that women are talked about in ancient religious scripts.”

For Soundararajan, California’s anti-caste bill, along with a spate of actions on college campuses, is just the tip of the iceberg.

“We’re in a snowball moment,” she said, “and it’s an amazing thing to be a part of.”
 

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They voted no on affirmative action but expect others to support this..? :beli:


Who are "they"?

70% of Asians support affirmative action. I would guess that dalit activists would support at an even stronger level.


"According to the national 2020 Asian American Voter Survey, which examined almost 1,570 voters, targeting the six largest national origin groups, found that 70 percent of Asian Americans supported affirmative action, while 16 percent opposed it. Chinese Americans, who were the least likely of the ethnicities to back the program, still favored it at a majority of 56 percent."




Thinking that Asians are against affirmative action is just believing Edward Blum's far-right propaganda, which looks for the most regressive Asians to put a non-white face on his own racism and then positions them as if they're the norm.



 

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Who are "they"?

70% of Asians support affirmative action. I would guess that dalit activists would support at an even stronger level.


"According to the national 2020 Asian American Voter Survey, which examined almost 1,570 voters, targeting the six largest national origin groups, found that 70 percent of Asian Americans supported affirmative action, while 16 percent opposed it. Chinese Americans, who were the least likely of the ethnicities to back the program, still favored it at a majority of 56 percent."




Thinking that Asians are against affirmative action is just believing Edward Blum's far-right propaganda, which looks for the most regressive Asians to put a non-white face on his own racism and then positions them as if they're the norm.



I got my info from this ucla article I read a while back:

Prop. 16 failed in California. Why? And what's next?

The majority of them may support affirmative action, but enough of them voted against their own interests for whatever probably stupid reason,, and voted against the prop for the prop to ultimately fail.. I was heated at them when I read that article haha..
 

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I got my info from this ucla article I read a while back:

Prop. 16 failed in California. Why? And what's next?

The majority of them may support affirmative action, but enough of them voted against their own interests for whatever probably stupid reason,, and voted against the prop for the prop to ultimately fail.. I was heated at them when I read that article haha..


Prop. 16 was a complete fukkup, everyone knew the whole time that the ballot language was confusing and voters weren't clear on what they were voting for and why. Your own article says exactly that. Those campaigning against the measure were better organized than those who were for it and got their message across better.

Most major Asian-American civil rights groups supported the measure, including:

* Asian Americans Advancing Justice - Asian Law Caucus

* Asian Americans Advancing Justice - Los Angeles

* Asian Pacific American Labor Alliance

* Japanese American Citizens League

* Chinese for Affirmative Action

* Organization of Chinese Americans

* California Democratic Asian Pacific Islander Caucus


Varsha Sarveshwar, president of the University of California Student Association.




Gaurav Khanna, professor of economics at UC San Diego




The racial breakdowns on Prop 16 were weird. This was the last poll:

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WTH? Only 58% of Black voters in favor with 33% against, even though it's clearly pro-Black. Latinos were slightly against the measure somehow, even though it would have helped them. And Native Americans were the strongest against it even though it would help them the most! In that context, I don't see the slight 50-40 polling by Asian-Americans to be against the measure as a big deal. 50% of Asian-Americans were just agreeing with 33% of Black folk. Obviously, voting on this measure ended up being some weird, nuanced shyt.

The only counties who voted for Prop 16 in the end were San Francisco (64%), Alameda (59%), Marin (56%), San Mateo (51%), Santa Cruz (52%), and Los Angeles (51%). Considering California's demographics, obviously it was rural White California and the lack of unified support in the Black/Latino communities that played the biggest role in stopping it from passing. Yeah, there were a certain component of Asians who were against it (mostly aspirational lower-attainment families who thought affirmative action would mean their children wouldn't get slots in good colleges and voted on that self-interest), but it's not what Asian-American activists were advocating at all.
 

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Also, attributing the actions of regressive anti-affirmative action Indians to activist Dalit Indians would be fukking weird. Those regressive anti-affirmative action Indians are the exact people these untouchables are fighting AGAINST. You're equating the oppressor with the oppressed.

Affirmative Action is a huge topic in India - they have much, much stronger Affirmative Action laws than we do (to support untouchables, low caste, and tribal peoples), and over there it's even more controversial than it is over here. Right now there's an entire Indian state that's basically falling apart with rioting and violence due to a fight over Affirmative Action.




Basically, a dominant group that controls all the political and economic power in Manipur (the Meiteis) are trying to claim that they're an oppressed tribe like the others and deserve the same quotas. This would screw over all the actual oppressed tribal groups and basically make Affirmative Action obsolete, because if everyone has it than no one does.

What is a “Scheduled Tribe”?​


Constitutionally recognised, this official designation gives certain protections to tribes and communities.

“It is an affirmative action to ensure marginalised communities are represented and gives them reservations and quotas in educational institutions and government jobs,” said Arunabh Saikia, a journalist who has covered the region.

“The Meiteis claim they are marginalised as compared to the other mainstream communities,” he said.










Thinking that all Indians are against affirmative action is like thinking that all Americans are against affirmative action. They're just as diverse if not moreso than we are. Don't make a Dalit responsible for the worse behaviors of the people she's fighting against.
 

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immigrants and people of them becoming americans bringing that shyt over here, is just crazy. But its happening. In other instances than just this.
 

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Is India the only Asian nation that has a caste system?


The caste system as it is usually understood is a Hindu thing, so it occurs wherever Hindus are - which is primarily India, Nepal and Sri Lanka.

At least according to wikipedia, a few other Asian and African nations have had caste systems, in Asia especially China, Korea, and Japan, though it's a bit unclear to what degree they still have an impact today

 
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Non-racist immigrants have difficulty assimilating into American culture.

True:jbhmm:


My jamaican maternal grandfather came over to the states in the 80s, he went back to Jamaica within 5 years because he could not tolerate the innate anti black cism in the states.


This is man who was a principal in Jamaica and transformed the lives of a lot of young men there.


So I can only imagine other immigrant groups would feel the same
 
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