Cato: The Libertarian Alternative

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The Libertarian Alternative

If you’ve routinely endorsed conservative policies and candidates, but now find that right‐wingers have become chauvinistic, fiscally irresponsible and intolerant, consider the libertarian alternative.

If you’ve previously embraced liberal policies and candidates, but now find that left‐wingers have pushed identity politics and socialist bromides, consider the libertarian alternative.

Libertarians have praised President Trump for progress in the Middle East, success against ISIS, reduced troop levels abroad, lower taxes, less regulation, and the confirmation of judges who appreciate individual rights and limited government. On the other hand, we have criticized Trump when he derides our intelligence agencies, cozies up to dictators, alienates our allies, and exacerbates global tensions. We’ve also been troubled by his xenophobic immigration policies, protectionist trade barriers, punitive drug policy, excessive focus on the culture wars, and exploding federal spending.

Libertarians will support President‐Elect Biden’s plans for criminal justice reform, immigration liberalization, civil rights, social permissiveness, revitalizing American diplomacy, reducing our military commitments, and non‐proliferation. On the other hand, we will vigorously oppose higher taxes, more regulations, affirmative action, Medicare for all, the Green New Deal, expanded welfare, free college, ballooning entitlements, a higher minimum wage, and judges who think the Constitution is a malleable document that courts can exploit as an alternative to legislation.

In essence, libertarianism is the political philosophy of personal and economic freedom. We believe that capitalism is the most efficient and morally defensible means of allocating scarce economic resources. Philosophically, we subscribe, as did Thomas Jefferson, to the idea of unobstructed liberty “within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others.” Government’s role is to secure those rights, applying sufficient coercive power – but no more than the minimum necessary – to attain that objective.

Put somewhat differently, we should be free to live our lives as we choose, as long as we don’t interfere with other people who wish to do the same. Of course, individuals can never be completely self‐sufficient. That’s why we sometimes need rules, enforced by government, to make peaceful cooperation possible. The risk, however, is that rules too extensive will produce a system of special favors that extracts largesse for the politically connected at the expense of the rest of us. By contrast, libertarianism relies on spontaneous ordering – minimizing the role of a commanding power that might preempt freely chosen actions.

Libertarians are not opposed to reasonable safety regulations, selective gun controls, or sensible restrictions in other areas. Moreover, we recognize that markets are not perfect. But neither is government. The relevant standard against which to compare our current framework is not a utopian world in which justice is ubiquitous and all inequities have been systemically purged. Instead, we have to look at the current environment versus one in which regulations would be more pervasive – meaning that some problems might be solved, but other problems would no doubt multiply.

Among those other problems: disincentives to innovate, favors to special interests, increased cost, reduced growth, government‐conferred monopolies, anti‐competitive barriers to entry, restricted consumer choices, higher prices, overlapping and confusing laws, abuses of public power, and excessive resources devoted to politicking and lobbying.

How, then, can someone who views the left as excessively collectivist and the right as excessively authoritarian join with libertarians in advancing socially liberal and fiscally conservative goals? One way is to vote for candidates who come closest to promoting pro‐liberty policies. Given the current political mix, those candidates will not be pristine libertarians. But it’s not necessary to agree with libertarianism across‐the‐board in order to move public policy in the right direction.

Second, a libertarian movement might be buttressed by supporting legislation and other political actions that foster personal autonomy and limited government. Such support – policy‐specific rather than candidate‐specific – could be in the form of lobbying, communications with government officials, letters to the editor, or donations to like‐minded organizations.

Finally, there’s the outside prospect of forming a viable third party. Two obvious hurdles complicate that approach. First, campaign contributions are presently limited to $2,800 per candidate per election. Effectively, that precludes all third‐party candidates except those who can self‐fund. Second, 48 of the 50 states award presidential electors on a winner‐take‐all basis. Only Maine and Nebraska assign electors, in part, district by district. Consequently, candidates who have no chance of winning a statewide popular vote will not be able to garner any electoral votes.

Regrettably, therefore, fashioning an undiluted libertarian alternative will take time and effort. But incremental progress toward favorable public policy is practicable, opportune, and indisputably worthwhile. Let’s get the ball rolling.
 

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Amazing that they're praising Trump's judges when Trump has nominated numerous blatantly unqualified or biased judges to important posts.

Libertarians don't recognize that their policies completely fukk over the environment while exacerbating income, education, and health inequalities. They don't recognize that the issues at the very center of our nation's survival - environmental destruction, the fate of the disenfranchised poor, and a massive power imbalance tilted towards the wealthy - are the very issues they are least equipped to address. And they never explain why fukkwads like Ron and Rand Paul are their greatest political products.

I appreciate that the Cato Institute doesn't produce straight bullshyt like, say, the Heritage Foundation. They at least try to maintain some degree of intellectual honesty. But they're still a constant spin factory - I have never, ever seen the Cato Institute promote a result that goes against libertarian dogma.

For example, you just posted a thread with Cato publishing certain minimum wage claims. But the exact same author has also published research that is positive towards Affirmative Action. Would Cato profile those papers of his in the same light?
 

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Libertarians don't recognize that their policies completely fukk over the environment while exacerbating income, education, and health inequalities. They don't recognize that the issues at the very center of our nation's survival - environmental destruction, the fate of the disenfranchised poor, and a massive power imbalance tilted towards the wealthy - are the very issues they are least equipped to address. And they never explain why fukkwads like Ron and Rand Paul are their greatest political products.
You just summed up nicely how i feel about the state.
I believe the environmental, health, education and societal challenges we face are a direct result of central planning, and that the market based ideas libertarians favor(much like worker owned means of production)have largely been rejected by govt. and corporate elites around the world.


And they never explain why fukkwads like Ron and Rand Paul are their greatest political products.

Ron Paul would have been great for this country:ufdup:
His son is an embarrassment.
 

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Weren't all the candidates freaking out about driver's licenses being tyranny at the last Libertarian convention?
The neck beard anarchy loons freak out about everything, and are what everyone thinks of when they hear libertarian. It would be like only thinking about Bernie bros when you hear Liberal or MAGAS when you here conservative.
 

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You just summed up nicely how i feel about the state.
I believe the environmental, health, education and societal challenges we face are a direct result of central planning, and that the market based ideas libertarians favor(much like worker owned means of production)have largely been rejected by govt. and corporate elites around the world.





Ron Paul would have been great for this country:ufdup:
His son is an embarrassment.

Imagine being a black man in America and supporting someone who would have been against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Self hate is something else.
 

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CATO!?!


They're Republicans who just want to smoke pot and that's coming from someone who used to go to their conferences and liberty events, til I realized it was one big circle jerk of Grifters. Just look at Michelle Fields, we went to several events yet she ends up working for far right propaganda Breitbart, the daily caller despite claiming to be a libertarian.
 
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You just summed up nicely how i feel about the state.
I believe the environmental, health, education and societal challenges we face are a direct result of central planning, and that the market based ideas libertarians favor(much like worker owned means of production)have largely been rejected by govt. and corporate elites around the world.





Ron Paul would have been great for this country:ufdup:
His son is an embarrassment.
:laff:
The same Ron Paul peddling conspiracy theories, racist tropes, etc? I'll admit I followed him a bit til I realized his own schtick was to be poor guy who fights the big bad government while using the same system he bashes to get things done. He's a joke. As for libertarians most their ideas are just that, ideas. They have no actual planning or backing to implement them because there's no central message. Its like abolishing the CRA is going keep states from screwing over minorities, gays, etc yet they still do it now. With libertarians in charge nothing would work and no one would want to pay for it. It's why they're always laughed at. Just like when they turned that NH city into a shythole and left it so broke they couldn't fix one police car or fight off bears. It's the same for Anarchy. It's a dream
 
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Honesty the thread replies don't make much sense, but that was expected I guess.

Firstly I lean towards libertarianism, but I admit that is somewhat of a difficult thing during a pandemic and seeing how the people react socially during this catastrophe.
With that said though, you can bring up loads of valid arguments about the evils of libertariasm/capitalism/free market and in response I can reply back with valid arguments about the evils of democratic socialism and/or centrism.

To me I try to focus on the problems more than what I as I human being tend to lean towards more.
And because of that my opinion is that if we lived in 100% free market libertarian country vs if we lived in a democratic soliacist country or whatever your preference is, if you wonder which one is better.
I would say that if you remove corruption all of the above would be better than things are now.
Therefore rather than leaning one way or the other way or in the middle I think we should all be more focused on removing corruption so any of the aboves could properly flourish.

There are many many many evils of socialism, and probably socialism have shed more blood than capitalism. I'm talking mass bloodshed levels.
The left always argues against libertarians, saying you don't want socialism, well you want the United States Army right? That's socialism.

Ya it is, and how much global bloodshed has that spilled since several decades accross multiple presidential terms from both parties?

What about the bailouts, the party that you all love also supports bailing out the elites and not never the people. Bailing out the elites and at that specific companies is at the heights of evil.
And of course, many many many more examples, I can do this all day, and likely so could you.

Another issue is alot of you give knee-jerk responses.
So when you give examples of evils of capitalism or libertarianism it could usually be argued that sorry, no that example you gave is an example of socialism not capitalism or libertarism.
But you perceive it as so because you so simplistically equate capitalism with money.
And regardless if you equate it with money or not that will never stop you from going hard and defending the next democratic candidate that is owned by wallstreet, so all too often this hatred of yours is purely theoritical and never goes into practice.

We would be much more results oriented if we focused on corruption more rather than hatred over a particular political philosophy and steer away from partisanship.
 
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You just summed up nicely how i feel about the state.
I believe the environmental, health, education and societal challenges we face are a direct result of central planning, and that the market based ideas libertarians favor(much like worker owned means of production)have largely been rejected by govt. and corporate elites around the world.
Yeah, at this point that's basically conspiracy theory status. The socialists can claim that the wealthy rich who want to hold onto power are stopping their ideas from being implemented. WTF do Libertarians blame for literally no one ever successfully implementing their ideas even though they'd supposedly be better for every single sector of society?

For example, I follow Oregon shyt pretty well, and the ONLY places that our forests have been preserved are places where there are government protections. Where forest is privately owned, logging companies are cutting down literally every last square inch, and then covering the ground with herbacide afterwards so nothing else can grow other than the trees they replant. They don't even call it "forest management" like they used to, instead they refer to it as "tree farms". They're laying waste to absolutely everything.

That's unimpeded capitalism in a nutshell. In the absence of community-dictated constraints, there will always be SOMEONE willing to destroy that next piece of land, willing to dump that poison into the water, willing to pump that shyt into the air. So unless the community unites to stop them, everything devolves to the least common denominator.

Same thing goes for racism - if a state or city wants to go full racist, libertarians simply let them cook. Same thing goes for health care. Same thing goes for education. Libertarians just allow the worst excesses to roll, and unless someone can figure out how to profit off of caring for poor people or educating the disenfranchised, they're fukked.


Here is libertarianism fully realized at the corporate level: How an Ayn Rand-Loving Libertarian Destroyed The Company He Runs With His Cultish Objectivist Theories

Here is libertarianism fully realized at the town level: The Town That Went Feral

Or this town too: The Rise and Fall of the 'Freest Little City in Texas'

Here is libertarianism fully realized at the city level: The Short, Unhappy Life of a Libertarian Paradise

Here too: THE MAKING OF A FREE CITY: The Foundation of Laissez-faire Capitalist Free Cities in Honduras in The Juncture of Globalisation

Here too: Abaco https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...85f8ae-d415-11e9-8924-1db7dac797fb_story.html

Here is libertarianism fully realized at the state level: The Great Kansas Tax Cut Experiment Crashes And Burns

Here is libertarianism fully realized at the national level: Somalia Lived While Its Government Died
 
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