CDC and FDA recommend US pause use of Johnson & Johnson's Covid-19 vaccine over blood clot concerns

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Not when it comes to someones health and well-being it isn't.

Yes, it is. Every drug you take has either less, greater, or the SAME risk attached to it as the vaccine. There's absolutely NOTHING on the market that 100% of the world's population can take, medicinally or otherwise, that would have NO adverse effects. What provides the greatest protection to the greatest amount of people with the least risk is the primary goal. Providing 100% protection to 100% of the population with 0-risk is impossible.​

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Let’s head over this way - @thekingsmen created an informative thread. Redirect the energy in the room.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the...-children-from-la-to-ny-1980s-and-90s.842882/

 

[mobbinfms]

Not when it comes to someones health and well-being it isn't.

Fen phen was a diet drug right?
This is a vaccine for the deadliest pandemic in a century.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Fen phen was a diet drug right?
This is a vaccine for the deadliest pandemic in a century.

It was still a scenario of where only a certain of people were affected by a drug that millions of people took. Medical lawsuits don't always involve everybody who took said drug or medication as it effects some people more than others. That's my point.

In that specific scenario, only a certain number of people ended up with heart valve issues in spite of the fact that millions of people took it. I'm sure we can find other situations just like it where everyone wasn't affected.

As of right now, we don't know the long effects of the COVID-19 vaccine. It could effect me, you or anybody else that we know years down the road while millions of others who take it will be just fine.

 

[1LurkerChick9]

My doc was literally just telling me this today at my refill appointment

Women been taking the L for years, now everybody wanna act shook

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

12 Fully-Vaccinated Los Angeles Residents Become Infected With Covid – Deadline

12 more people who tested positive for the vaccine after all being fully vaccinated. All in long term care facilities, so that means it’s more than likely they spread it through each other.

But according to the CDC, vaccinated people can’t carry or spread the virus. This says otherwise, so which one is it? Either the vaccines are still effective against the new variants or we need to be concerned.

The conflicting of information isn’t helping.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

But according to the CDC, vaccinated people can’t carry or spread the virus. This says otherwise, so which one is it? Either the vaccines are still effective against the new variants or we need to be concerned.

The conflicting of information isn’t helping.

There is NO conflict. The vaccines are like 95 -99% effective, not 100%. Some people still get chicken pox after being vaccinated, but the cases are minimal and the symptoms are milder and shorter.

Same rules apply here.​

 

[mobbinfms]

But according to the CDC, vaccinated people can’t carry or spread the virus.

CDC has never said this. Like @Dafunkdoc_Unlimited said the vaccines are not 100% effective and some people are going to get unlucky and become infected and transmit the virus. The benefit of the vaccine is that amongst the vaccinated, instead of 100% of people having the capability to become infected and transmitted, it will only be 5-10%. And the risk of serious illness or death should be virtually non existent.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

CDC has never said this. Like @Dafunkdoc_Unlimited said the vaccines are not 100% effective and some people are going to get unlucky and become infected and transmit the virus. The benefit of the vaccine is that amongst the vaccinated, instead of 100% of people having the capability to become infected and transmitted, it will only be 5-10%. And the risk of serious illness or death should be virtually non existent.

The CDC essentially said it during Easter weekend when they stated that vaccinated people could meet together without the need for mask or social distancing. We’re also seeing report of where the new variants can bypass current vaccinations.

These are stated reports and not just information that I’m making up out of thin air.

 

[mobbinfms]

It was still a scenario of where only a certain of people were affected by a drug that millions of people took. Medical lawsuits don't always involve everybody who took said drug or medication as it effects some people more than others. That's my point.

In that specific scenario, only a certain number of people ended up with heart valve issues in spite of the fact that millions of people took it. I'm sure we can find other situations just like it where everyone wasn't affected.

As of right now, we don't know the long effects of the COVID-19 vaccine. It could effect me, you or anybody else that we know years down the road while millions of others who take it will be just fine.

That’s literally every single medication. What is your overall point here? Are you suggesting we ban all medications?

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

That’s literally every single medication. What is your overall point here? Are you suggesting we ban all medications?

The point is to just be honest and transparent instead of giving conflicting information out here.

The people just want them to keep it 100% and the conflicting messaging isn’t helping matters. Doctors and medical experts don’t even know themselves, but The Coli medical experts do and have a rebuttal for every report.

There are still communication and transparency issues out here from the CDC whether you're willing to admit it or not. They are still out here having to correct and clarify statements even under the Biden Administration.

 

[mobbinfms]

The CDC essentially said it during Easter weekend when they stated that vaccinated people could meet together without the need for mask or social distancing.

How does that conflict with the vaccine not being 100% effective?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

The point is to just be honest and transparent instead of giving conflicting information out here.

They HAVE been honest and transparent through this entire fiasco. They have no choice as too many people's lives are at stake so there's increased oversight. There is NO conflicting information regarding how/how well this vaccine, or ANY vaccine, works. That's why the criticisms against it are so easily refutable.​

 

[Big Boda]

CDC has never said this. Like @Dafunkdoc_Unlimited said the vaccines are not 100% effective and some people are going to get unlucky and become infected and transmit the virus. The benefit of the vaccine is that amongst the vaccinated, instead of 100% of people having the capability to become infected and transmitted, it will only be 5-10%. And the risk of serious illness or death should be virtually non existent.

I know they proud of you for reading the script err I mean clearing that up for us.

Why should anyone believe their drug will bring a good result for black people considering their track record with medical malpractice and experimentation?

 

[mobbinfms]

The point is to just be honest and transparent instead of giving conflicting information out here.

The people just want them to keep it 100% and the conflicting messaging isn’t helping matters. Doctors and medical experts don’t even know themselves, but The Coli medical experts do and have a rebuttal for every report.

There are still communication and transparency issues out here from the CDC whether you're willing to admit it or not. They are still out here having to correct and clarify statements even under the Biden Administration.

What does this have to do with all medications having side effects?