‪Cheri Jacobus Says "Black People Will Save Us From Trump"

[Professor Emeritus]

people are still playing dumb?
Joe Biden on Crime and Mass Incarceration

I didn't say Biden is good on the mass incarceration issue. But you called him the ARCHITECT of the prison-industrial complex. That would mean he built it. Considering the vast majority of the prison-industrial complex is handled by the states and was built through the 1970s and 1980s, you're making an unsupportable claim.

If you saw that graph, would you assume that something in the mid-to-late 1990s drove it? Come on now.

 

[theworldismine13]

I didn't say Biden is good on the mass incarceration issue. But you called him the ARCHITECT of the prison-industrial complex. That would mean he built it. Considering the vast majority of the prison-industrial complex is handled by the states and was built through the 1970s and 1980s, you're making an unsupportable claim.

If you saw that graph, would you assume that something in the mid-to-late 1990s drove it? Come on now.

As a member of the senate judiciary committed since the early 80's Biden is the person most responsible for the chart you posted that is still alive

 

[Professor Emeritus]

As a member of the senate judiciary committed since the early 80's Biden is the person most responsible for the chart you posted that is still alive

As I pointed out, it started in the 1970s, and when the major bills were passed in the 1980s he was a minority member of a Republican-led committee in a Republican Senate with a Republican president voting on bills that were initially written in the House. He wasn't the "architect". Not to mention that those bills are only for federal prisons, while the vast majority of incarceration happens at the state level.

The part you got right is that Biden is still alive.

 

[SupaDupaFresh]

I planned to vote Third Party, but Trump is dangerous. I was in my feelings about Bernie, but Trump’s response to this crisis swayed me begrudgingly to Biden.

This virus is hitting the black community especially hard. This is no time for split the vote nonsense.

No offense to you bro but damn...its sad it took Trump's self-serving, borderline-criminally negligent response to a pandemic that is now costing thousands upon thousands of lives with no end in sight for some of yall "independents" to realize shouting "both sides the same," pigeonholding Democrats to "reparations" and a "black agenda" with no critical thought for how this is actually assisting those most opposed to said-policies, and committing to not vote or throw away your vote knowing an all-out white supremacist benefits directly from that decision for yall to wake up and put your wokey woke pride aside in favor an actual pragmatic solution.

There was never a time to split the vote; neutralize our influence as a voting bloc by sharing it with "third parties" and "not voting" and other bullshyt to help Republicans win elections in perpetual protest of Democrats. There is so much by way of education, healthcare, the economy, and just leadership in general in this country that African Americans have to vote for and must have influence over. Giving unprecedented political gains to white supremacist until Democrats "earn our vote" never made damn sense.

Again, no offense to you, I don't know your political views really and im glad to see more folks online--in the midst of this crisis--are finally snapping out of whimsical fantasies of extorting the Democrats of their "demands" like some type of gang clique and coming to the side of actually wanting to fukking win for once. Reparations and a "black agenda" or not our communities gain more by electing Democrats than passively electing Republicans. It just comes to show a lot of those "I dNt cUrr l3t th3 world BURN uNtIl ADOS gET OuR rEpARAtIoNs. We ADOS sO rEsIlIenT " fake woke anarchist talk was coming from white Bernie Bros, white Trump Supporters (sometimes I can hardly tell the difference), and children that cant vote anyway.

I refuse to believe no negro outside of the Coli could be this decidedly docile towards a visible white supremacist movement.

 

[Robbie3000]

No offense to you bro but damn...its sad it took Trump's self-serving, borderline-criminally negligent response to a pandemic that is now costing thousands upon thousands of lives with no end in sight for some of yall "independents" to realize shouting "both sides the same," pigeonholding Democrats to "reparations" and a "black agenda" with no critical thought for how this is actually assisting those most opposed to said-policies, and committing to not vote or throw away your vote knowing an all-out white supremacist benefits directly from that decision for yall to wake up and put your wokey woke pride aside in favor an actual pragmatic solution.

There was never a time to split the vote; neutralize our influence as a voting bloc by sharing it with "third parties" and "not voting" and other bullshyt to help Republicans win elections in perpetual protest of Democrats. There is so much by way of education, healthcare, the economy, and just leadership in general in this country that African Americans have to vote for and must have influence over. Giving unprecedented political gains to white supremacist until Democrats "earn our vote" never made damn sense.

Again, no offense to you, I don't know your political views really and im glad to see more folks online--in the midst of this crisis--are finally snapping out of whimsical fantasies of extorting the Democrats of their "demands" like some type of gang clique and coming to the side of actually wanting to fukking win for once. Reparations and a "black agenda" or not our communities gain more by electing Democrats than passively electing Republicans. It just comes to show a lot of those "I dNt cUrr l3t th3 world BURN uNtIl ADOS gET OuR rEpARAtIoNs. We ADOS sO rEsIlIenT " fake woke anarchist talk was coming from white Bernie Bros, white Trump Supporters (sometimes I can hardly tell the difference), and children that cant vote anyway.

I refuse to believe no negro outside of the Coli could be this decidedly docile towards a visible white supremacist movement.

You don’t know me homey.

Literally none of this shyt applies to me if you know my politics. Maybe you should do a little more research before getting on your high horse.

 

[theworldismine13]

As I pointed out, it started in the 1970s, and when the major bills were passed in the 1980s he was a minority member of a Republican-led committee in a Republican Senate with a Republican president voting on bills that were initially written in the House. He wasn't the "architect". Not to mention that those bills are only for federal prisons, while the vast majority of incarceration happens at the state level.

The part you got right is that Biden is still alive.

• During the 1980s and 1990s, when Mr. Biden was a senator from Delaware, he and other leaders of the powerful Senate Judiciary Committee helped fashion a string of bills that overhauled the country’s crime laws.
  
  
• Among the most significant were: the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984, which established mandatory minimum sentences for drug offenses; the 1986 Anti-Drug Abuse Act, which imposed harsher sentences for possession of crack than for possession of powder cocaine; and the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which was essentially a catchall tough-on-crime bill.
  

 

[theworldismine13]

No offense to you bro but damn...its sad it took Trump's self-serving, borderline-criminally negligent response to a pandemic that is now costing thousands upon thousands of lives with no end in sight for some of yall "independents" to realize shouting "both sides the same," pigeonholding Democrats to "reparations" and a "black agenda" with no critical thought for how this is actually assisting those most opposed to said-policies, and committing to not vote or throw away your vote knowing an all-out white supremacist benefits directly from that decision for yall to wake up and put your wokey woke pride aside in favor an actual pragmatic solution.

There was never a time to split the vote; neutralize our influence as a voting bloc by sharing it with "third parties" and "not voting" and other bullshyt to help Republicans win elections in perpetual protest of Democrats. There is so much by way of education, healthcare, the economy, and just leadership in general in this country that African Americans have to vote for and must have influence over. Giving unprecedented political gains to white supremacist until Democrats "earn our vote" never made damn sense.

Again, no offense to you, I don't know your political views really and im glad to see more folks online--in the midst of this crisis--are finally snapping out of whimsical fantasies of extorting the Democrats of their "demands" like some type of gang clique and coming to the side of actually wanting to fukking win for once. Reparations and a "black agenda" or not our communities gain more by electing Democrats than passively electing Republicans. It just comes to show a lot of those "I dNt cUrr l3t th3 world BURN uNtIl ADOS gET OuR rEpARAtIoNs. We ADOS sO rEsIlIenT " fake woke anarchist talk was coming from white Bernie Bros, white Trump Supporters (sometimes I can hardly tell the difference), and children that cant vote anyway.

I refuse to believe no negro outside of the Coli could be this decidedly docile towards a visible white supremacist movement.

I don't know what tea leaves you are reading but there is no movement to coalesce around Biden

the "I dNt cUrr l3t th3 world BURN uNtIl ADOS gET OuR rEpARAtIoNs. We ADOS sO rEsIlIenT" is in full effect and getting stronger

 

[Professor Emeritus]

• During the 1980s and 1990s, when Mr. Biden was a senator from Delaware, he and other leaders of the powerful Senate Judiciary Committee helped fashion a string of bills that overhauled the country’s crime laws.
  
  
• Among the most significant were: the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984, which established mandatory minimum sentences for drug offenses; the 1986 Anti-Drug Abuse Act, which imposed harsher sentences for possession of crack than for possession of powder cocaine; and the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which was essentially a catchall tough-on-crime bill.

Who is his source for Biden being the architect of those bills? Like I already told you, the Judiciary Committee was run by Repubilcans in 1984 and 1986, Biden was in the minority, and both bills were introduced by the House, not the Senate, and handled by damn near half the committees in Congress, not just Judiciary. If anything he had a minor role unless you have an actual source showing otherwise.

 

[SunZoo]

I hate Trump I'm white

 

[mr. smoke weed]

You didn't know I was white? We've been posting together for years.

 

[theworldismine13]

Who is his source for Biden being the architect of those bills? Like I already told you, the Judiciary Committee was run by Repubilcans in 1984 and 1986, Biden was in the minority, and both bills were introduced by the House, not the Senate, and handled by damn near half the committees in Congress, not just Judiciary. If anything he had a minor role unless you have an actual source showing otherwise.

the source is the ny times article that I posted, it clearly states that Biden has helped shape crime laws since the 80s

 

[Professor Emeritus]

the source is the ny times article that I posted, it clearly states that Biden has helped shape crime laws since the 80s

What is HIS source was my question. You seriously expect me to think you believe every random aside any media writer tosses into their article without sources or attribution? It doesn't even cite an anonymous source, there's no source for the statement at all.

Unless you believe literally everything you read in the NYT, this is just another example of someone believing whatever reinforces his preexisting assumptions regardless of whether there's any evidence for it or not.

 

[theworldismine13]

What is HIS source was my question. You seriously expect me to think you believe every random aside any media writer tosses into their article without sources or attribution? It doesn't even cite an anonymous source, there's no source for the statement at all.

Unless you believe literally everything you read in the NYT, this is just another example of someone believing whatever reinforces his preexisting assumptions regardless of whether there's any evidence for it or not.

I don't feel like googling. Do your own research. But anybody that does research would know that Biden in the 80s wasn't a minor senator going along with the flow, he was intimately involved in crime laws and drug laws regardless of who was in power. And in the 90's he was almost wholly responsible for the crime laws.

so it is accurate to say that Joe Biden is the architect of the prison industrial complex and unless there is a quid pro quo where he is promising something directly and specifically for black people there is no reason to vote for him

 

[Baka's Weird Case]

Blows my mind that this guy has negative dap to post ratio.

even crazier than his rep being green

 

[JoogJoint]

Why is it always up to us to save people from themselves?\

Exactly.

We're supposed to be an insignificant 13% of the population in this country, but yet we can "save" this country?

White people contradict themselves.

White people (especially White Women) got us into this ness, they will have to find a way out.