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In Eden, humans eyes were opened, and God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil.” That was the first time God admitted the gap between him and us was smaller than we thought. Knowledge made us like the divine, so he shut the door and drove them out.

At Babel, humans took unity. With one voice and one purpose, God said, “Nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.” People say it’s arrogance, but really, what is arrogance when it’s actually capability. Once again, God was threatened. And once again, he crippled humanity by scattering and breaking their unity.

Stay with me. Put them together. The two things that make God, God, were revealed. Knowledge of good and evil. Collective unity without limit. When humans touched either one, God drew a line to cut them off. Knowledge plus unity. And both times we got close, God made sure to take it away.

You gotta ask just wtf is the god in the Bible’s purpose? He is anti knowledge, anti unity, otherwise you’ll be able to be just like them and then, you won’t have to follow his oppressive expectations of follow me or else.

This is a colonizer’s wet dream. I JUST HAD TO BRING IT FULL CIRCLE.

The same move God pulled at Eden and Babel is the move colonizers pulled on Africa and everywhere else they went. When they saw unity, they broke it. When they saw knowledge, they deaded it. Colonizers carved lines through Africa not because those lines meant anything, but because division meant control. They outlawed native tongues, rewrote histories, and scattered tribes because they knew the same thing Babel showed: a people who speak the same, move the same, and share knowledge are unstoppable. So they fractured them, just like God did. The colonist mindset is the Bible mindset, keep the people divided, keep the power at the top.

So who is this god of the Bible you are serving? :jbhmm:
 

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Threads like this just prove that the God of the Bible is real. Your soul craves to know more about God and to understand God.

No matter what we say, you will just twist things and miss the point. Pray to God for wisdom and discernment.

You never see people making these threads about Allah, Thor, Odin, Vishnu, Buddha, or Zeus.

Africa has been mentioned in the Bible since the Old Testament, so it doesn't make sense to worship colonizers.
 

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Threads like this just prove that the God of the Bible is real. Your soul craves to know more about God and to understand God.

No matter what we say, you will just twist things and miss the point. Pray to God for wisdom and discernment.

You never see people making these threads about Allah, Thor, Odin, Vishnu, Buddha, or Zeus.

Africa has been mentioned in the Bible since the Old Testament, so it doesn't make sense to worship colonizers.
 

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Threads like this just prove that the God of the Bible is real. Your soul craves to know more about God and to understand God.

No matter what we say, you will just twist things and miss the point. Pray to God for wisdom and discernment.

You never see people making these threads about Allah, Thor, Odin, Vishnu, Buddha, or Zeus.

Africa has been mentioned in the Bible since the Old Testament, so it doesn't make sense to worship colonizers.

I'm just interested in being honest in all this. Thats it, Not adding more to what's in the text. :hubie:
 

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Threads like this just prove that the God of the Bible is real. Your soul craves to know more about God and to understand God.

No matter what we say, you will just twist things and miss the point. Pray to God for wisdom and discernment.

You never see people making these threads about Allah, Thor, Odin, Vishnu, Buddha, or Zeus.

Africa has been mentioned in the Bible since the Old Testament, so it doesn't make sense to worship colonizers.
:what: this is poorly thought out. There arent threads on Buddha or Vishnu because of the demographics of this forum. There are threads on Allah though we have some Muslims. But besides that Allah is the same God as the one mentioned in the old testament. Islam is an Abrahamic religion breh. So technically Allah is being mentioned a lot here when book Genesis creation is mentioned here. As is Yahweh. The divergence happens later.

It's also not about Africa being mentioned in the Bible it's about the Bible being used as a tool for the colonization of Africa and other continents. Shortly before colonization took place in many countries the missionaries sent from Europe were able to convert their leaders into Christianity. It was the route of least resistance for colonization.
 

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Religion threads are the complete opposite of animal threads on here.
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we can change that though

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you were born without wisdom and knowledge, so its arguable that its near that place where God intends people purposefully

and that wisdom is what makes you like the Babel crowd...which ultimately were copying not God...but Ants
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But humans are impure crodie

That’s why individual purity / sanctification must come before knowledge or unity



He told us

Ye are like gods


What does this mean AI?



“The statement "ye are like gods bible" refers to Psalm 82:6 (quoted by Jesus in John 10:34), which reads, "I said, 'You are 'gods'; you are all sons of the Most High'". In its original context, this was a rebuke to human rulers for unjustly judging and failing to protect the weak, even though they held a position of authority and represented God's power. It does not mean humans are inherently divine but that they were acting as God's representatives, an authority that comes with great responsibility.

Meaning of the Phrase
  • Human Rulers as "gods":
    The Hebrew word translated as "gods" (elohim) can also mean "powerful beings" or "judges". In Psalm 82, God calls the judges "gods" because they exercised divine judgment, holding significant authority over the nation.

  • Divine Authority, Not Divinity:
    The phrase highlights that these rulers were acting with God's delegated authority. They were God's representatives, not deities themselves.

  • A Rebuking Context:
    The psalm is a critique, not a commendation. It chastises the leaders for abusing their power and failing to administer justice. They were rebuked for acting like gods without possessing God's perfect nature.
Significance
  • A Warning Against Arrogance:
    The immediate follow-up in the psalm, "But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler," underscores that this authority is not inherent divinity. It serves as a warning against self-importance and a reminder of human mortality.

  • Jesus's Use of the Verse:
    When Jesus quotes Psalm 82 in John 10, he uses it to show that the concept of being called "gods" was not a new or shocking idea, as it was already in the Scriptures. He uses it to defend his own claims to divinity by pointing out that the Scriptures refer to even human judges as gods.”
 

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Well, some things to consider is that God warned them that eating from the tree leads to DEATH. Obtaining the knowledge of evil led to their death.

2nd what was the motivation behind building this city. Was it to glorify God or themselves?
 
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In Eden, humans eyes were opened, and God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil.” That was the first time God admitted the gap between him and us was smaller than we thought. Knowledge made us like the divine, so he shut the door and drove them out.

At Babel, humans took unity. With one voice and one purpose, God said, “Nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.” People say it’s arrogance, but really, what is arrogance when it’s actually capability. Once again, God was threatened. And once again, he crippled humanity by scattering and breaking their unity.

Stay with me. Put them together. The two things that make God, God, were revealed. Knowledge of good and evil. Collective unity without limit. When humans touched either one, God drew a line to cut them off. Knowledge plus unity. And both times we got close, God made sure to take it away.

You gotta ask just wtf is the god in the Bible’s purpose? He is anti knowledge, anti unity, otherwise you’ll be able to be just like them and then, you won’t have to follow his oppressive expectations of follow me or else.

This is a colonizer’s wet dream. I JUST HAD TO BRING IT FULL CIRCLE.

The same move God pulled at Eden and Babel is the move colonizers pulled on Africa and everywhere else they went. When they saw unity, they broke it. When they saw knowledge, they deaded it. Colonizers carved lines through Africa not because those lines meant anything, but because division meant control. They outlawed native tongues, rewrote histories, and scattered tribes because they knew the same thing Babel showed: a people who speak the same, move the same, and share knowledge are unstoppable. So they fractured them, just like God did. The colonist mindset is the Bible mindset, keep the people divided, keep the power at the top.

So who is this god of the Bible you are serving? :jbhmm:
or that's the version of God your oppressors want you to know. The ethiopian bible the oldest bible in existence has a slightly different telling of some of these stories.



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King James is looking up from hell marveling how the negro has adopted his fake religious hook, line and sinker
i mean KJ only wrote a version of the bible. the unadulterated african version is pifff. positive like you wouldn't believe. the trinity (father, wife, children) help you get closer to God as that good book teaches.
 

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True

But humans are impure crodie

That’s why individual purity / sanctification must come before knowledge or unity



He told us

Ye are like gods


What does this mean AI?



“The statement "ye are like gods bible" refers to Psalm 82:6 (quoted by Jesus in John 10:34), which reads, "I said, 'You are 'gods'; you are all sons of the Most High'". In its original context, this was a rebuke to human rulers for unjustly judging and failing to protect the weak, even though they held a position of authority and represented God's power. It does not mean humans are inherently divine but that they were acting as God's representatives, an authority that comes with great responsibility.

Meaning of the Phrase
  • Human Rulers as "gods":
    The Hebrew word translated as "gods" (elohim) can also mean "powerful beings" or "judges". In Psalm 82, God calls the judges "gods" because they exercised divine judgment, holding significant authority over the nation.

  • Divine Authority, Not Divinity:
    The phrase highlights that these rulers were acting with God's delegated authority. They were God's representatives, not deities themselves.

  • A Rebuking Context:
    The psalm is a critique, not a commendation. It chastises the leaders for abusing their power and failing to administer justice. They were rebuked for acting like gods without possessing God's perfect nature.
Significance
  • A Warning Against Arrogance:
    The immediate follow-up in the psalm, "But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler," underscores that this authority is not inherent divinity. It serves as a warning against self-importance and a reminder of human mortality.

  • Jesus's Use of the Verse:
    When Jesus quotes Psalm 82 in John 10, he uses it to show that the concept of being called "gods" was not a new or shocking idea, as it was already in the Scriptures. He uses it to defend his own claims to divinity by pointing out that the Scriptures refer to even human judges as gods.”
I need to remind you

David said "Ye are like elohim", meaning you are like creators, but will perish as mere men

it is poetry that is often taken literal and out of context.

the psalms are prayers sung in a specific manner...

and Saul put Michal his daughter with David so that the "Hand of the Philistines" would be against him. Please consider this with full understanding
 
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