Tommy Knocks
retired
There's something I've been thinking about for awhile via discussions have had over the years about civilizations in europe and africa and there's something I've wanted to get off my chest. I hope some of you gain some knowledge from this topic, and whenever this discussion comes up, you are able to use said knowledge against the person you are having a debate with.
African civilizations - Ethiopia, Nubia, Kush, Zimbabwe, Ghana Empires and of course Egypt are ALL african civilizations. However why is it white nationalists claim that egyptians are not african. mostly because 1/3 of their history were ran by northern invaders and so they tend to remember the most recent and ignore the the prior.
Civilizations didn't spring up in WEST africa until far later than everyone else because nobody lived there (at least large enough tribes) until 400BC - They moved into the area around that time, and by then Egypt was already 3,000 years old and Rome was starting to begin. The west africans (original bantu/igbo people) of today are those that fled cruel treatment and consistant invasion and slavery in egypt, they migrated though the rainforest to present day west africa. It took a very long time to populate that area because most people died during that migration, this is why west africans obtained their features so quickly, its literally evolution on steroids. In order to form a civilization you need a dense population, which of course west africa did not have, while Rome and Egypt had already been very densely populated. At that time there were very few west africans in such a large area, and unlike other areas surrounding the cradle of civilization, west africa's trading routes were cut off by the sub sahara, so technology from the east going west (like it did north) was almost impossible.
What I find annoying about the cac argument is that egyptians can not be claimed by west africans because they are different people, yet they, usually people of germanic or nordic tribe are quick to claim Roman and Greek civilization, again, people who are much different looking them. Why? because they are on the same continent, so how come they are able to use Roman and Greek and we can't use Egypt who is on the same continent? They try to point out feature differences yet the short olive greek is nothing like the tall Swede. Funny how when it comes to black people, its down to tribal, but when its white people, its now continent.
Truth be told, Nubians were writing and had a civilization waaaaay before germanic, briton and precious nordic/Scandinavian tribes, in fact, before the Romans, 1AD, Germanic and Nordic tribes couldn't read or write and lived in huts. That is 3,000 years before the Nubians. While they were learning to write around that time (1AD) west africans were barely settling into their west african countries, and they didn't adopt the east african writing system because of the huge gap called the sahara desert and the huge rainforest that cut them off from their ancestors. East africans COULD have been what the Romans were to northern europe, to west africans however the terrain and environment was much different. not too mention going into the thick rainforest meant chances are.....you weren't coming out..a rainforest that is the size of all of europe. did I forget to mention with large predators and extreme heat/lack of water?
I find it annoying when germanic/anglo/nordic people tell me. WE HAD CIVILAZTION, YEA SPARTANS ROMANS GREEKS. when they arent even italian or greek. they're probably irish or some shyt. Its interesting how someone can boast about a civilization that isn't even from his lineage, but when I do the same with Egypt, Im met with
. They completely don't see how absurd it is and bias it is. Like how are you of english descent talking about Greeks and how you invented democracy, when during greek reign, the anglo saxon was living in caves, couldn't read or write and were sexing neanderthals? how are you telling me about blonde hair blue eye scandinavians when they barely got out of huts and villiages in the 1800s?
How does a discussion go from me saying "you're not italian dude" and them saying YES BUT ITALIANS ARE WHITE (despite italians looking nothing like anglos), to me saying "yea well egypt is african" and them saying EGYPTIANS ARENT BLACK (because they dont look like west africans). and them completely ignoring how bias that shyt really is.
African civilizations - Ethiopia, Nubia, Kush, Zimbabwe, Ghana Empires and of course Egypt are ALL african civilizations. However why is it white nationalists claim that egyptians are not african. mostly because 1/3 of their history were ran by northern invaders and so they tend to remember the most recent and ignore the the prior.
Civilizations didn't spring up in WEST africa until far later than everyone else because nobody lived there (at least large enough tribes) until 400BC - They moved into the area around that time, and by then Egypt was already 3,000 years old and Rome was starting to begin. The west africans (original bantu/igbo people) of today are those that fled cruel treatment and consistant invasion and slavery in egypt, they migrated though the rainforest to present day west africa. It took a very long time to populate that area because most people died during that migration, this is why west africans obtained their features so quickly, its literally evolution on steroids. In order to form a civilization you need a dense population, which of course west africa did not have, while Rome and Egypt had already been very densely populated. At that time there were very few west africans in such a large area, and unlike other areas surrounding the cradle of civilization, west africa's trading routes were cut off by the sub sahara, so technology from the east going west (like it did north) was almost impossible.
What I find annoying about the cac argument is that egyptians can not be claimed by west africans because they are different people, yet they, usually people of germanic or nordic tribe are quick to claim Roman and Greek civilization, again, people who are much different looking them. Why? because they are on the same continent, so how come they are able to use Roman and Greek and we can't use Egypt who is on the same continent? They try to point out feature differences yet the short olive greek is nothing like the tall Swede. Funny how when it comes to black people, its down to tribal, but when its white people, its now continent.
Truth be told, Nubians were writing and had a civilization waaaaay before germanic, briton and precious nordic/Scandinavian tribes, in fact, before the Romans, 1AD, Germanic and Nordic tribes couldn't read or write and lived in huts. That is 3,000 years before the Nubians. While they were learning to write around that time (1AD) west africans were barely settling into their west african countries, and they didn't adopt the east african writing system because of the huge gap called the sahara desert and the huge rainforest that cut them off from their ancestors. East africans COULD have been what the Romans were to northern europe, to west africans however the terrain and environment was much different. not too mention going into the thick rainforest meant chances are.....you weren't coming out..a rainforest that is the size of all of europe. did I forget to mention with large predators and extreme heat/lack of water?
I find it annoying when germanic/anglo/nordic people tell me. WE HAD CIVILAZTION, YEA SPARTANS ROMANS GREEKS. when they arent even italian or greek. they're probably irish or some shyt. Its interesting how someone can boast about a civilization that isn't even from his lineage, but when I do the same with Egypt, Im met with
. They completely don't see how absurd it is and bias it is. Like how are you of english descent talking about Greeks and how you invented democracy, when during greek reign, the anglo saxon was living in caves, couldn't read or write and were sexing neanderthals? how are you telling me about blonde hair blue eye scandinavians when they barely got out of huts and villiages in the 1800s?How does a discussion go from me saying "you're not italian dude" and them saying YES BUT ITALIANS ARE WHITE (despite italians looking nothing like anglos), to me saying "yea well egypt is african" and them saying EGYPTIANS ARENT BLACK (because they dont look like west africans). and them completely ignoring how bias that shyt really is.
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and chalk it up to cacs gon cac.