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Nice post, well constructedI don’t listen to Tyler The Creator so i’ll bow out of any conversation regarding his music
But Kanye hasn’t had a classic album since My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Life of Pablo was very good but not enough so for a classic when it comes to the music and it really wasn’t all that impactful so you can’t use that argument for it. Kids See Ghost was good too and probably the last above average Kanye album but no dice on it being classic.
Kendrick Lamar has the best argument amongst any rap artist in the past decade for not one but TWO classic albums (possibly three with GNX) To Pimp A Butterfly and Damn both met with extraordinary critical acclaim and the commercial performance to back it up. Both were extremely impactful. Both still get spins to this day judging by their continued charting success. With Kendrick, whether you love him or hate him, its inarguable He’s got at least three universally recognized albums, the first to accomplish such a feat since early Kanye, and he didn’t need a team of Ghostwriters to get him over the hump the way Kanye did.
J.Cole has one recognized classic and thats Forest Hills Drive, and i’d hesitate to call it a “universally” recognized classic but amongst Hip Hop heads its solidified. I personally LOVE 4 Your Eyez Only and would argue its a classic but it seems like the response to that album has been polarizing over time. Those who fukk with it like me REALLY fukk with it and those that hate it say its his worse album, which is insane to me but it is what it is.
Jay-Z’s 4:44 is a great album but its a fukking carbon copy of Nas’s Life Is Good. All the way down to the theme of the album that nikka bit Nas something crazy. But whatever, Jay-Z actually rapping like he cares instead of just going through the motions like he did on that bullshyt Manga Carta album. Production was fire and he managed to prove to the mainstream that vulnerable, autobiographical bars from 50 year old rappers could indeed be impactful. I think its aged really well and lives in the “arguable” classic space.
Drake has one classic and one classic ONLY. So Far Gone. The rest of his discography ranges from great (Take Care. Nothing Was The Same) to mid (More Life) to absolute garbage (Views) but classic? CLASSIC?!?! Hell no. And he should ashamed of the fact he can employ the best writers, producers and steal other artist’s songs with impunity and STILL can’t craft a universally recognized classic with all of those resources at his disposal.
This is about it and a couple of these are pushing the limits of the term "classic"2015
Future - Dirty Sprite 2
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly
Drake - If You're Reading This Than It's Too Late
2016
2017
Tyler, the Creator - Flowerboy
2018
Pusha T - Daytona
2019
Freddie Gibbs & Madlib - Bandana
Do you agree?
What would you remove?
What would you add?
2015
Future - Dirty Sprite 2
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly
Drake - If You're Reading This Than It's Too Late
2016
2017
2018
Travis Scott - Astroworld
2019
Freddie Gibbs & Madlib - Bandana
2015
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly
2017
Kendrick Lamar - DAMN
2018
Kanye West & Kid Cudi - Kids See Ghosts
I'll tell my kids about this kendrick's runI don’t listen to Tyler The Creator so i’ll bow out of any conversation regarding his music
But Kanye hasn’t had a classic album since My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Life of Pablo was very good but not enough so for a classic when it comes to the music and it really wasn’t all that impactful so you can’t use that argument for it. Kids See Ghost was good too and probably the last above average Kanye album but no dice on it being classic.
Kendrick Lamar has the best argument amongst any rap artist in the past decade for not one but TWO classic albums (possibly three with GNX) To Pimp A Butterfly and Damn both met with extraordinary critical acclaim and the commercial performance to back it up. Both were extremely impactful. Both still get spins to this day judging by their continued charting success. With Kendrick, whether you love him or hate him, its inarguable He’s got at least three universally recognized albums, the first to accomplish such a feat since early Kanye, and he didn’t need a team of Ghostwriters to get him over the hump the way Kanye did.
J.Cole has one recognized classic and thats Forest Hills Drive, and i’d hesitate to call it a “universally” recognized classic but amongst Hip Hop heads its solidified. I personally LOVE 4 Your Eyez Only and would argue its a classic but it seems like the response to that album has been polarizing over time. Those who fukk with it like me REALLY fukk with it and those that hate it say its his worse album, which is insane to me but it is what it is.
Jay-Z’s 4:44 is a great album but its a fukking carbon copy of Nas’s Life Is Good. All the way down to the theme of the album that nikka bit Nas something crazy. But whatever, it’s Jay-Z actually rapping like he cares instead of just going through the motions like he did on that bullshyt Manga Carta album. Production was fire and he managed to prove to the mainstream that vulnerable, autobiographical bars from 50 year old rappers could indeed be impactful. I think its aged really well and lives in the “arguable” classic space.
Drake has one classic and one classic ONLY. So Far Gone. The rest of his discography ranges from great (Take Care. Nothing Was The Same) to mid (More Life) to absolute garbage (Views) but classic? CLASSIC?!?! Hell no. And he should be ashamed of the fact he can employ the best writers, producers and steal other artist’s songs with impunity and STILL can’t craft a universally recognized classic with all of those resources at his disposal.
Jay-Z’s 4:44 is a great album but its a fukking carbon copy of Nas’s Life Is Good. All the way down to the theme of the album that nikka bit Nas something crazy. But whatever, it’s Jay-Z actually rapping like he cares instead of just going through the motions like he did on that bullshyt Manga Carta album. Production was fire and he managed to prove to the mainstream that vulnerable, autobiographical bars from 50 year old rappers could indeed be impactful. I think its aged really well and lives in the “arguable” classic space.
Drake has one classic and one classic ONLY. So Far Gone. The rest of his discography ranges from great (Take Care. Nothing Was The Same) to mid (More Life) to absolute garbage (Views) but classic? CLASSIC?!?! Hell no. And he should be ashamed of the fact he can employ the best writers, producers and steal other artist’s songs with impunity and STILL can’t craft a universally recognized classic with all of those resources at his disposal.