Coli brehs...is there a Heisman Curse :lupe:

[TL15]

I don't post too much in the Coliseum so forgive me if this has been posted

Me and a work breh were talking about RGIII and I brought up how not too many Heisman trophy winners translate that well in the league...

When I looked at the actual names though


Mariota - unproven
Winston - unproven
Manziel
RGIII
Cam Newton
Mark Ingram
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Troy Smith
Reggie (but vacated)
Matt Leinart
Jason White
Carson Palmer
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Ron Dayne
Ricky Williams
Charles Woodson
Danny Wuerffel
Eddie George
Rashaan Salaam
Charlie Ward
Desmond Howard
Ty Detmer
Andre Ware
Barry Sanders
Tim Brown
Vinny Testaverde
Bo Jackson

That's a 30 year Mediocre ass list

going on

*edit... forgot Bradford and Tebow

 

[ManxOfxThexYear]

And the only one's worth a damn, are Oakland Raiders.

Woodson (Future Hall Of Famer) and Brown (Hall Of Famer)

:mjrdr:

 

[3rd Koast Kang]

Some cats think just because a dude wins the heisman he's gonna beast in the league. Truth is they were only college good and just got exposed in the NFL.

 

[Broad Street Bully]

And the only one's worth a damn, are Oakland Raiders.

Woodson (Future Hall Of Famer) and Brown (Hall Of Famer)

:mjrdr:

Damn so Barry ain't worth a damn

and don't forget Carson Palmer to that list of Raider heisman winners

 

[TL15]

Some cats think just because a dude wins the heisman he's gonna beast in the league. Truth is they were only college good and just got exposed in the NFL.

I agree...but this is supposed to be the BEST player in all of college every year and the list is just you would think more on the list would translate to the league...

 

[ManxOfxThexYear]

Damn so Barry ain't worth a damn

and don't forget Carson Palmer to that list of Raider heisman winners

He was dope as fukk and i'm still salty about him retiring



Carson Palmer, ain't a Raider nor will be in the hall of fame anyways

 

[DaPresident]

The award is for outstanding COLLEGE player.

Usually (not all of the time) that cat that wins it, feasts on 2nd tier college players/teams. A lot of times, the bulk of them highlights and stats we view usually come from them OOC games. Not saying they don't play good comp, but stats (and wins) usually determine the Heisman winner so the guy with the biggest stat line. It usually favors QBs as well so


guys that deserve it win it (if we going by numbers) but USUALLY the best players (ie: guys that are the beasts in college and the pros) either get passed up or not nominated bc of some "inflated" stats guy (Texas Tech QBs, Hawaii QBs, RBs we NEVER hear from again, etc)

 

[TL15]

The award is for outstanding COLLEGE player.

Usually (not all of the time) that cat that wins it, feasts on 2nd tier college players/teams. A lot of times, the bulk of them highlights and stats we view usually come from them OOC games. Not saying they don't play good comp, but stats (and wins) usually determine the Heisman winner so the guy with the biggest stat line. It usually favors QBs as well so


guys that deserve it win it (if we going by numbers) but USUALLY the best players (ie: guys that are the beasts in college and the pros) either get passed up or not nominated bc of some "inflated" stats guy (Texas Tech QBs, Hawaii QBs, RBs we NEVER hear from again, etc)

I looked at some nominees too though and a lot of the second place winners have had much better careers and aren't just products of those inflated stats


Luck behind RGIII
Luck behind Cam Newton
McFadden behind Tebow
McFadden behind Troy Smith
Adrian Peterson behind Leinart
Larry Fitzgerald behind Jason White
Drew Brees and LT 3 and 4 behind Chris Weinke

It just seems like the Heisman might be the peak for many players

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

There's no curse. It's just that most of winners(the QBs in particular), didn't have a skill set that translates to the next level.

 

[3rd Koast Kang]

I agree...but this is supposed to be the BEST player in all of college every year and the list is just you would think more on the list would translate to the league...

If you want a better barometer of college players who might be effective in the league I'd look at position oriented awards(Outland, biletnikoff, doak walker, etc) those are more centralized and focus on the position more than the stats.

 

[Tide Run This]

Heisman is a joke hypejobs galore

 

[mastermind]

I don't post too much in the Coliseum so forgive me if this has been posted

Me and a work breh were talking about RGIII and I brought up how not too many Heisman trophy winners translate that well in the league...

When I looked at the actual names though


Mariota - unproven
Winston - unproven
Manziel
RGIII
Cam Newton
Mark Ingram
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Troy Smith
Reggie (but vacated)
Matt Leinart
Jason White
Carson Palmer
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Ron Dayne
Ricky Williams
Charles Woodson
Danny Wuerffel
Eddie George
Rashaan Salaam
Charlie Ward
Desmond Howard
Ty Detmer
Andre Ware
Barry Sanders
Tim Brown
Vinny Testaverde
Bo Jackson

That's a 30 year Mediocre ass list

going on

*edit... forgot Bradford and Tebow

the only curse is bowl game performances

The Heisman trophy does not correlate to pro success.

More than that though, this isnt a "new" idea.

 

[Lootpack]

#PrayForJameis

 

[FS4LFE]

Tebow a legend take him off this list b.