Coli centrists, what's so great about centrism: come in here and sell us on your political leaning

[Jalether]

I have always considered centrists as incrementalists who are pro corporations and on the extreme end, some of them are
straight up cowards who have zero conviction and just sits on the fence on damn near every issue (except capitalism ofcourse)

MLK even called them (paraphrasing) enemy of progress


I want to know what's so great about centrism, why should a progressive for example abandon their ideology and become a centrist instead

the floor is yours coli centrists

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

The Neo-Liberal defense force are going to tell you that they actually are progressive, but they'll turn around and make up some bullshyt just to punch left right after.

You're not going to get a straight up answer from them because they will not discuss in good faith. If you ask them what their problem with progressives and the rest of the left is, they'll create a straw man to point at. They're a walking, talking David Feldman skit, but without any of the irony.


That's why I keep my foot on their necks every time I see some bad faith bullshyt from them.

 

[OfTheCross]

I have always considered centrists as incrementalists who are pro corporations and on the extreme end, some of them are
straight up cowards who have zero conviction and just sits on the fence on damn near every issue (except capitalism ofcourse)

MLK even called them (paraphrasing) enemy of progress


I want to know what's so great about centrism, why should a progressive for example abandon their ideology and become a centrist instead

the floor is yours coli centrists

Centrism is probably the best way to get elected in most of America.

Once in power, you can actually change things for the better.

As a centrist, I'm for winning elections over everything.

 

[Jalether]

The Neo-Liberal defense force are going to tell you that they actually are progressive, but they'll turn around and make up some bullshyt just to punch left right after.

You're not going to get a straight up answer from them because they will not discuss in good faith. If you ask them what their problem with progressives and the rest of the left is, they'll create a straw man to point at. They're a walking, talking David Feldman skit, but without any of the irony.


That's why I keep my foot on their necks every time I see some bad faith bullshyt from them.

They still blame Bernie for Hilary's loss to trump till this day despite him campaigning for her in 2016
Centrist including their leadership (which is basically dem leadership) always seem to have smoke for progressives, but hit the
for the true saboteur of their party i.e the Josh Gottheimer,Cuellar,manchin,sinema centrist wing of the party

 

[Jalether]

Centrism is probably the best way to get elected in most of America.

Once in power, you can actually change things for the better.

As a centrist, I'm for winning elections over everything.

But what are the selling points of centrism

What is centrism and what values and policies do you stand for

 

[Jesus H. Christ]

Centrist don't have any intentions on passing legislations. They only hold fund raisers to scare the left into thinking they will get stuff done. They pose as the solution when in fact they end up causing more harm by going along with the right a majority of times.

 

[Jalether]

I genuinely believe centrists have way more in common with republicans than progressives and
some of them would rather republican win over a progressive, such is their level of hate for progressives

Those who think Bernie would have won the general election don't realise the length the DNC would have gone
to ensure that doesn't happen, shyt they would have either nominated and get behind a 3rd party candidate
or straight up back a "moderate republican" over Bernie and the same goes for the mainstream media

 

[CrimsonTider]

I genuinely believe centrists have way more in common with republicans than progressives and
some of them would rather republican win over a progressive, such is their level of hate for progressives

Those who think Bernie would have won the general election don't realise the length the DNC would have gone
to ensure that doesn't happen, shyt they would have either nominated and get behind a 3rd party candidate
or straight up back a "moderate republican" over Bernie and the same goes for the mainstream media

Who is a centrist?

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Thread gon get avoided by hlnbc like the plague. After all, centrists are cowards with zero conviction…..

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

Centrism is probably the best way to get elected in most of America.

Once in power, you can actually change things for the better.

As a centrist, I'm for winning elections over everything.

The Dems have had an aversion to wielding power when they've had it. If power is given and things still aren't being changed for the better, at what point do you give up on centrism and use the primary to vote in someone who is actually offering to try to change things for the better? With the blase attitude that has been shown by the establishment Dems for the struggles of the working class, do you really believe simply winning is more important than having integrity and conviction?

Why do you believe centrism is the best way to get elected? Do you think centrism is a better tactic than populism?

The way I look at it, centrism has been framed by the media as the winning ticket, but I'm not convinced. We're told that pushing rightwards is what is going to appeal to the most people, but I don't believe that most people actually want that for this country. I do believe the Dem establishment and the media have a vested interest in making people believe that it's true, and they've become very good at controlling the narrative to enforce the idea. To me it seems more like people give up on what they believe in out of fear of asking for 'too much' and risking Republicans taking power, but the line of what is 'too much' was dictated by the media and establishment.

The vibe I get from centrists is that they look down on progressives as dumb or naive for not knowing you're supposed to abandon your hopes of improving society or else, like they were told they needed to do. That being 'moderate' won't ever rock the boat, and therefor won't ever topple the system. I don't subscribe to that narrative and I find the idea that we need to appeal to corporate interests and push things rightward in order to win completely manufactured. Being moderate in the face of extremism is just allowing the boat to rock to one side without trying to shift it back to the other. If/when the system topples, it will be the fault of moderates for refusing to push back.

 

[OfTheCross]

But what are the selling points of centrism

What is centrism and what values and policies do you stand for

The beauty is that it can stand for anything you want it to. Depending on your beliefs and constituency you can dress it up as lean-left or lean-right.

 

[Jalether]

Who is a centrist?

people who think progress is impossible or even a bad thing or an inconvenience
People who do the bidding of the 1 percenters every chance they get
People who always vote for military spending and have zero problem with bloated defence budget and some even masturbate to f35 jet pictures
People who think we need more Dianne feinstens and less Ilhan omar's

anyway that's the point of this thread, for centrist like yourself to define centrism and sell us on its ideals

 

[OfTheCross]

The Dems have had an aversion to wielding power when they've had it. If power is given and things still aren't being changed for the better, at what point do you give up on centrism and use the primary to vote in someone who is actually offering to try to change things for the better? With the blase attitude that has been shown by the establishment Dems for the struggles of the working class, do you really believe simply winning is more important than having integrity and conviction?

Why do you believe centrism is the best way to get elected? Do you think centrism is a better tactic than populism?

The way I look at it, centrism has been framed by the media as the winning ticket, but I'm not convinced. We're told that pushing rightwards is what is going to appeal to the most people, but I don't believe that most people actually want that for this country. I do believe the Dem establishment and the media have a vested interest in making people believe that it's true, and they've become very good at controlling the narrative to enforce the idea. To me it seems more like people give up on what they believe in out of fear of asking for 'too much' and risking Republicans taking power, but the line of what is 'too much' was dictated by the media and establishment.

The vibe I get from centrists is that they look down on progressives as dumb or naive for not knowing you're supposed to abandon your hopes of improving society or else, like they were told they needed to do. That being 'moderate' won't ever rock the boat, and therefor won't ever topple the system. I don't subscribe to that narrative and I find the idea that we need to appeal to corporate interests and push things rightward in order to win completely manufactured. Being moderate in the face of extremism is just allowing the boat to rock to one side without trying to shift it back to the other. If/when the system topples, it will be the fault of moderates for refusing to push back.

Because that's what works in local elections most of the time. Maybe the Presidential candidate can be populist. But The 500+ members of Congress don't run National campaigns. Neither do the thousands of locally elected officials.

If you notice, candidates start at either end of the spectrum during the primaries, then move closer to the middle for General Elections. There's a reason for that. Centrists are more electable.

 

[Jalether]

The Dems have had an aversion to wielding power when they've had it. If power is given and things still aren't being changed for the better, at what point do you give up on centrism and use the primary to vote in someone who is actually offering to try to change things for the better? With the blase attitude that has been shown by the establishment Dems for the struggles of the working class, do you really believe simply winning is more important than having integrity and conviction?

Why do you believe centrism is the best way to get elected? Do you think centrism is a better tactic than populism?

The way I look at it, centrism has been framed by the media as the winning ticket, but I'm not convinced. We're told that pushing rightwards is what is going to appeal to the most people, but I don't believe that most people actually want that for this country. I do believe the Dem establishment and the media have a vested interest in making people believe that it's true, and they've become very good at controlling the narrative to enforce the idea. To me it seems more like people give up on what they believe in out of fear of asking for 'too much' and risking Republicans taking power, but the line of what is 'too much' was dictated by the media and establishment.

The vibe I get from centrists is that they look down on progressives as dumb or naive for not knowing you're supposed to abandon your hopes of improving society or else, like they were told they needed to do. That being 'moderate' won't ever rock the boat, and therefor won't ever topple the system. I don't subscribe to that narrative and I find the idea that we need to appeal to corporate interests and push things rightward in order to win completely manufactured. Being moderate in the face of extremism is just allowing the boat to rock to one side without trying to shift it back to the other. If/when the system topples, it will be the fault of moderates for refusing to push back.

The entire mainstream media both cable and print,brainwashed the voters into beleiving centrism is the only winning formula for dems and they swallow it up

Repitition and narrative is extrememly powerful and effective tool

If you hear and read everyday that progressives are unelectable, day after day, night after night, guess what, you start to beleive it too and when you
factor in that most voters are uninformed, what you get is politics and political party that skews right wing

 

[Jalether]

The beauty is that it can stand for anything you want it to. Depending on your beliefs and constituency you can dress it up as lean-left or lean-right.

spoken like a true centrist

"It's whatever you want it to be"