Coli gun owners: what are these 2A CAC training for? 🤔

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you don't got to do a deep dive on the complexities of cac gun ownership and whether or not 2a cacs want to shoot black people.
That is being very intellectually lazy especially noting the historical hypocrisies between gun ownership in America and the hands of African people. Did you suddenly forget the young brother who was killed at the mall in Alabama because police thought that he was the gunman? The video also shows a black man being tackled by a CAC because he saw a black man literally exercising his second amendment rights. You're saying that one shouldn't look too deep into the subject while I'm saying we're not looking deep enough.
 

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It depends where you are from. I grew up in the country and everyone had guns. Hell in highschool my best friend kept my shotgun in his car and would come pick me up after football practice so we could walk some fields dove hunting after practice. It was not uncommon to see farm kids with trucks have a gun rack with shotguns of rifles on them at school(90s). Many folks black and white are avid hunters. I still like to go to the range and shoot, but I haven't hunted in many years. I have no desire to clean birds after I am done. Now, my buddies and I enjoy shooting different weapons, especially when we get something new.

Then you got these CACs who were to scared, drugged out, or out of shape to join the military that want to live out their murder fantasies and think just because they get the gear and weapons with all the fancy attachments that they are the second coming of Rambo. Morbidly obese cacs in tight cammo and plate carries with their belly sticking out from the bottom thinking they can go toe to toe with any soldier because they use these competition shooting grips that SOF has adoted. They think they all would have been SFOD-D operators if they joined but they never did because they are too good. Basically they are cosplaying their fantasies. Most of them would fold under the pressure of combat. They are the reason I hate going to certain gun stores and ranges. So many mentally deranged people including owners at guns stores and ranges. My boys and I used to go to outdoor ranges in Cali and those cacs used to hate us. Some of my boys were NCIS guys and had some weapons that were illegal in Cali. The looks we got were priceless.

If you enjoy shooting then the bug will grow. I first got a Taurus .45. It was fun and the GF and I would shoot regularly. She went from being scared to even touch it to enjoy shooting and wanting to learn how to shoot better. Then I picked up Springfield 9mm because the Taurus was expensive to shoot and wanted something with cheaper ammo. When I moved to Cali I picked up a high point carbine because it was incredibly cheap (In more ways that one) and my boy had tons of .40 SW ammo so I could shoot it for free. Then I picked up a home defense shotgun cause reasons......Moved to Hawaii and picked up an AR-10 for boar hunting (still haven't gone) and because I was free of Cali's dumb restrictions on AR rifles. I mainly got the AR cause I am so familar with how to operate it properly, I still have the muscle memory. Then I went and got my concealed carry permit and picked up a Glock 29 SF. I also use it when we go fishing in Alaska incase we come across any unfriendly wildlife and its easy to chest carry if I am fishing plus has the stopping power to make a bear think twice. I have zero camo and zero body armor. Why do I need it? I have some 5/11 pants and boots mainly when we are hiking to fishing spots when we go to Alaska. I have a tactical style chest rig but again more for convienence. My boys and I are all vets and none of us wear military style gear.

Side note, no one has the power to invade the US. Not China Not Russia. They do not have the strategic capability to project force halfway around to world and to sustain it. Russia can't even sustain their own troops away from rail heads in Ukraine. Wars are won by logistics and we are the only country with the logistic capability to project force effectively for long periods of time.
 

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That is being very intellectually lazy especially noting the historical hypocrisies between gun ownership in America and the hands of African people. Did you suddenly forget the young brother who was killed at the mall in Alabama because police thought that he was the gunman? The video also shows a black man being tackled by a CAC because he saw a black man literally exercising his second amendment rights. You're saying that one shouldn't look too deep into the subject while I'm saying we're not looking deep enough.
bruh yal really in here trying to wax poetic over this

bro in the post above me is talking about the invasion of the us

for what. get a get your permit, get your gun, get trained. and separate all that extra shyt - like the vast majority of gun owners do

yal talking about all this extra shyt like it's going to have any bearing on whether you are legally in bounds to protect your family and property and able to hit the shot that counts

but i'll ask - why *can't* you stay focused on the practical and the basics? whats making you detour into all these other tangents
 

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bruh yal really in here trying to wax poetic over this

bro in the post above me is talking about the invasion of the us

for what. get a get your permit, get your gun, get trained. and separate all that extra shyt - like the vast majority of gun owners do

yal talking about all this extra shyt like it's going to have any bearing on whether you are legally in bounds to protect your family and property and able to hit the shot that counts

but i'll ask - why *can't* you stay focused on the practical and the basics? whats making you detour into all these other tangents
Nothin at all. :hubie:
 

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bruh yal really in here trying to wax poetic over this

bro in the post above me is talking about the invasion of the us

for what. get a get your permit, get your gun, get trained. and separate all that extra shyt - like the vast majority of gun owners do

yal talking about all this extra shyt like it's going to have any bearing on whether you are legally in bounds to protect your family and property and able to hit the shot that counts

but i'll ask - why *can't* you stay focused on the practical and the basics? whats making you detour into all these other tangents
You have a point but you‘d also have to acknowledge that if Red Dawn and Rosewood is unlikely so is the idea that you‘d be a victim of crime and if you had a gun that you‘d be able to do anything about it. If action Movie scenarios won‘t happen in the states then they won‘t happen

So better to get a 22 LR S&W to plink with and call it a day because the Rifle companies are marketing to “needing“ an AR. I remember that POF ad where they had the Statue of Liberty with a Bible in one hand and an AR in the other.
 

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Nothin at all. :hubie:
if you want to have fun with all the extra shyt and embrace it as hobbyism, do just that. but know where the training ends and where the hobby begins. if other people blur the lines that's on them.

performative gun ownership is absolutely a thing - but in reality that is a minority of a minority of a minority.

some soccer mom trains weekly with her weapon, knows her tools, and doesn't feel the slightest urge to wonder what malcolm x would say on the way to her holster. nor does she care about some nuanced case in sacramento that may apply to her current or future life or death situation.

that's all i got. this kinda dialogue makes my head hurt. good luck and all that
 
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