Come in here and rattle off albums with a more genuine "classic' standing than Stillmatic/Blueprint

[Big Mel]

We're gonna go back a bit but you young fellows feel free to contribute as well.


Nice & Smooth - Nice & Smooth
3rd Bass - The Cactus Album
Masta Ace Inc. - Slaughtahouse
Leaders Of The New School - A Future Without a Past
Das Efx - Dead Serious
Redman - Whut? Thee Album
Boogie Down Productions - By All Means Necessary
Black Sheep - A Wolf In Sheep's Clothing
Cypress Hill - Cypress Hill
*Diamond & The Psychotic Neurotics - Stunts, Blunts & Hip Hop


let's aim high. shoot for the stars.


* the in the know pick

 

[Big Mel]

Black Moon - Enta Da Stage
Onyx - Bacdafucup
EPMD - Business Never Personal
Ol' Dirty b*stard - Return To The 36 Chambers
Common Sense - Resurrection
Queen Latifah - All Hail The Queen
X-Clan - To The East Blackwards



every last one of these albums moved the in crowd more than the two stiff "goats" beef awards.

 

[JuvenileHell]

I agree with some of your choices but not really feeling the premise of the thread...

..but don't mind me, go ahead and cook Mel

 

[JayBaldacci]

Stillmatic isnt a top 3 nas release, neither is the bp for jay.

 

[Big Mel]

^^^the idea being, post Illmatic/Reasonable Doubt, things gets very hairy.....and rap stopped mattering kinda sorta.

 

[JuvenileHell]

Stillmatic isnt a top 3 nas release, neither is the bp for jay.

Blueprint isn't a top 3 release for Jay? I think it's his second best after Reasonable Doubt...Vol 1 being 3rd.

What are Jay's top 3 releases for you?

 

[Big Mel]

maaaaan......all THREE volumes kill Blueprint!

 

[Big Mel]

let's put Blueprint's wackness.weakness on blast.....he was outshined by a whiteboy, and allowed a barely breathing Nas to beat him due to his complacency...


1998 Jay Z would have eviscerated NaS. 2001 Jay was boring and vulnerable.

 

[The Jewnited States]

never really understood how stillmatic and blueprint could be classics

songs on the blueprint that prevent it from being a true classic:

girls, girls, girls, (seriously one of the worst jay tracks EVER recorded. song is corny in every fukking sense of the word)
also thought "song cry" was cringeworthy even though some cats like it


on stillmatic:

basically the last 4 tracks are meh.


and in my opinion if there are skippable tracks the shyt aint really CLASSIC. might be a great album, but it aint CLASSIC


of course the definition of classic changes from person to person, but i dont think either of these are truly bonafide classics.. i used to think so, but upon recent listens, nahhhhhhhhhh. some of those tracks aged horribly

 

[Brown Ant]

It's Dark and Hell is Hot - DMX

 

[JuvenileHell]

let's put Blueprint's wackness.weakness on blast.....he was outshined by a whiteboy, and allowed a barely breathing Nas to beat him due to his complacency...

Yeah Eminem did kill Jay on Renegade...but Jay's verse was still pretty good, Em was just a lot more hungrier and outdid Hov. Takeover as a song was solid as well, and actually had people thinking that Nas was done for...he went at Mobb Deep as well, but I'm not really sure if it really affected P as much as people say it did, I think the summerjam thing was what did the trick.

Blueprint was pretty solid imo...I liked it more than the volumes sans Vol 1.

1998 Jay Z would have eviscerated NaS. 2001 Jay was boring and vulnerable.

I dunno, if Jay couldn't get the job done when Nas was arguably at his lowest point...how would Jay kill Nas in '98?

 

[JuvenileHell]

never really understood how stillmatic and blueprint could be classics

songs on the blueprint that prevent it from being a true classic:

girls, girls, girls, (seriously one of the worst jay tracks EVER recorded. song is corny in every fukking sense of the word)
also thought "song cry" was cringeworthy even though some cats like it


on stillmatic:

basically the last 4 tracks are meh.


and in my opinion if there are skippable tracks the shyt aint really CLASSIC. might be a great album, but it aint CLASSIC


of course the definition of classic changes from person to person, but i dont think either of these are truly bonafide classics.. i used to think so, but upon recent listens, nahhhhhhhhhh. some of those tracks aged horribly

I agree with Stillmatic and BP not really classics, just good albums. lol I liked the Girls,Girls,Girls song. Hola Hovita I could do without

I like Stillmatic more than BP, fukked a lot with more songs on there than Blueprint. The intro, Destroy and Rebuild, Got Yourself A Gun, Rewind and One Mic. On BP I only go back to play either Renegade, Song Cry or Takeover.

But I agree, they're not really classics...

 

[Art Barr]

criminal minded
by any means necessary
return of the boom bap
survivor skills
paid in full
follow the leader
roots of evil
ghetto millionaire
done by the forces of nature
all for one
stunts, blunts & hiphop
obfcl
whut thee album
dare iz a darkside
chronic
enter the 36 chambers
heist of the century
it takes a nation of millions to hold us back
kill @ will
death certificate
amerikkka's most wanted
music to drive by
ridin dirty
superbad
mista don't play everythangs working
e. 1999
all balls don't bounce
first pharcyde
labcabincalifornia
i wish my brother george was here
93 till infinity




art barr

 

[JuvenileHell]

To stay on topic though, just want to throw The Infamous in there, definitley more of a classic than BP and Stillmatic combined

 

[Cuban Pete]

Carter 1-2, Purple Haze/Diplomatic Immunity, Tm 101, Aquemini, Kanye School Trilogy, Be