Commander of Afghanistan NATO Mission Visits City Armed with Rifle
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Insider attacks got them wilding.
ADevilYouKhow
Rhyme Reason
No vest though?
ZoeGod
I’m from Brooklyn a place where stars are born.
The Afghan war has been an abject failure and a waste of trillions.
ADevilYouKhow
Rhyme Reason
Alternatively?
Not sure we spent that much there? But the whole idea of stabilizing that country that doesn't want to be stabilized is nonsense. But, I don't think ithere's an easy solution. We still need troops to support anti-terrorism forces.
ZoeGod
I’m from Brooklyn a place where stars are born.
Withdraw because we tried everything. A surge by Obama all did was stabilize only parts of the countries while the Taliban still operated in the border areas near Pakistan. You will never truly defeat an insurgency that can cross the border where they can rest, rearm,retrain and recruit in a neighboring nation. Drone strikes in Pakistan has barely put a dent on the Talibans capability. The best we have done is preventing total collapse of the Afghan govt which means perpetuating a stalemate. The Taliban is much more stronger today than ever. And let’s not begin with the endemic corruption in the Afghan government that has made them unpopular to the people and incompetent in fighting the Taliban. Nation building has been a failure in Afghanistan. The war has gone on too long. It’s time to withdraw because nothing has worked.
ZoeGod
I’m from Brooklyn a place where stars are born.
Exactly the Taliban has been chilling since 2011. It’s time to admit the US lost in Afghanistan.
ADevilYouKhow
Rhyme Reason
No. Alternatively to invading in the first place.
Odd you don’t feel anyway about ISIL or the Taliban ruling Afghanistan. You find that socially acceptable?
ZoeGod
I’m from Brooklyn a place where stars are born.
The US had to do something after 9/11 which was to prevent Al Qaeda from having a base in Afghanistan. In 2001-2002 Al Qaeda moved their base to Pakistan. And they have been there since. Al Qaeda in Afghanistan is a shell of its former self. The strongest al Qaeda branches are the ones in Yemen, Syria and the Maghreb.
To you second point how can you militarily defeat the Taliban? It has foreign support from Pakistan and a lesser extent Iran and Russia just to attrition the war. They have support amongst the people on the ground of Afghanistan. To truly defeat the Taliban you would need an offensive into the AfPak border regions. That is not happening as Pakistan won’t let that slide and they are a nuclear power. Plus they can cut of supply line for US forces if shyt were ever to escalate. So I’m short the war isn’t winnable. All we are doing is delaying the inevitable. Everyone in the DOD has admitted Afghanistan is a stalemate and that there will be no final victory over the Taliban. Trying to prop up a corrupt and unpopular govt is not sustainable. How many more years we have to be in there? 18 more years? 20? 25? This is a called a quagmire. There is too much ungovernable spaces in Afghanistan because the nature of its topography. It’s heavily mountainous and hard to control those areas. The best the US can do is prop up the government and incompetent afghan security forces. In short no victory just stalemate. The Taliban is stronger today than anytime before. So in short the mission objective to defeat the Taliban has failed.
GPBear
The Tape Crusader
Dumbass white boys wanted to play call of duty, then expect sympathy for their PTSD
“Support our troops”
thatrapsfan
Superstar
Will they take over the whole country if the Americans withdraw though? Or will it revert to contested pockets of rule?Timeline of Taliban policies
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What of this negotiation process?
Kooley_High
All Star
At this point, there is no way to effectively pull out of Afghanistan without leaving a power vacuum. Its pretty much a pointless fight at this point. Theyre just trying to save face and make america look “strong” and “in control”. Al Queda just playing a waiting game now.
ZoeGod
I’m from Brooklyn a place where stars are born.
What is likely gonna happen is that we will have a permanent force presence in Afghanistan to prevent total collapse of the government. Basically a permanent stalemate.