Couldn't Basically ANY Decent Player Average 25PPG on 22 Shots?

[TOP LAD]

So how is Kobe NOT ?



Dude at practice crying like his inefficient play isn't why the Lakers suck, dude is 1-5 from 3 on a nightly basis

 

[The Goodz]

YES YES YES YES, thats why i never understood the high regard for AI.

including 7-8 FTs, say they make six

you mean to tell me your average player cant make 9-10 shots out of 22. yes any SG or SF can do it, easily.

 

[TOP LAD]

YES YES YES YES, thats why i never understood the high regard for AI.

including 7-8 FTs, say they make six

you mean to tell me your average player cant make 9-10 shots out of 22. yes any SG or SF can do it, easily.

be Bryant

 

[I.V.]

No. Because that is not how basketball works.

 

[Malta]

No, realistically just getting 20 shots off in the NBA is difficult as hell.

 

[010101]

mane I'm getting 10 buckets a quarter

fukk wit a gawd brehs*

 

[TOP LAD]

No. Because that is not how basketball works.

explain

 

[I.V.]

explain

First... a "decent" player would not be able to get off 25 shots a game. I know you're thinking "just shoot every time" but it isn't that easy. You have to be in position, you have to actually RECEIVE the ball, you have to factor in teammates getting it to you. JR Smith is a legendary chucker, and has never shot the ball more than 15 times in a game, he's never even averaged 20 shots per game PER 36 MINUTES...

Al Harrington, another chucker who has spent time as a starter... peaks at 16... he's almost 10 short of the average... over the course of the season, that's 800 shots short of the goal.

Michael Jordan had two seasons where he shot the ball more than 25 times per game (and one of them was 25.7)

Beyond that... usage rates show a law of diminishing returns in these cases... so that as the average player increases their field goal attempts, they generally LOSE efficiency. So a decent player, that shoots 45% on 9 shots a game... if boosted to 25, would likely shoot in the low 30's. Especially because if you are FORCING up shots, that means you are taking a LARGE quantity of bad shots, contested shots, shots out of position.... it cripples your %'s.

Beyond that... you have to factor in the fact that it's the NBA, and there are coaches... and if you're a "decent' player chucking up 25 shots a game, you will get benched. Or your teammates will stop giving you the ball.

Absent the realities of MINUTES, COACHES, STRATEGY, SUBSTITUTIONS, MINUTES, etc.... you'd have to be in a vacuum of awful, where your terribleness and flailingly poor efforts didn't matter.

You would have to be the Sixers this season.

And on the sixers team... on TOTALLY DEVOID of talent, one where JUST ABOUT ANY AVERAGE PLAYER has FREE RANGE to shoot as much as they like.... it is the perfect storm incubation for your very point.

They have two players averaging 15 shots a game. They are each 10 short of the goal. Neither is averaging even 18 points per game.

 

[TOP LAD]

First... a "decent" player would not be able to get off 25 shots a game. I know you're thinking "just shoot every time" but it isn't that easy. You have to be in position, you have to actually RECEIVE the ball, you have to factor in teammates getting it to you. JR Smith is a legendary chucker, and has never shot the ball more than 15 times in a game, he's never even averaged 20 shots per game PER 36 MINUTES...

Al Harrington, another chucker who has spent time as a starter... peaks at 16... he's almost 10 short of the average... over the course of the season, that's 800 shots short of the goal.

Michael Jordan had two seasons where he shot the ball more than 25 times per game (and one of them was 25.7)

Beyond that... usage rates show a law of diminishing returns in these cases... so that as the average player increases their field goal attempts, they generally LOSE efficiency. So a decent player, that shoots 45% on 9 shots a game... if boosted to 25, would likely shoot in the low 30's. Especially because if you are FORCING up shots, that means you are taking a LARGE quantity of bad shots, contested shots, shots out of position.... it cripples your %'s.

Beyond that... you have to factor in the fact that it's the NBA, and there are coaches... and if you're a "decent' player chucking up 25 shots a game, you will get benched. Or your teammates will stop giving you the ball.

Absent the realities of MINUTES, COACHES, STRATEGY, SUBSTITUTIONS, MINUTES, etc.... you'd have to be in a vacuum of awful, where your terribleness and flailingly poor efforts didn't matter.

You would have to be the Sixers this season.

And on the sixers team... on TOTALLY DEVOID of talent, one where JUST ABOUT ANY AVERAGE PLAYER has FREE RANGE to shoot as much as they like.... it is the perfect storm incubation for your very point.

They have two players averaging 15 shots a game. They are each 10 short of the goal. Neither is averaging even 18 points per game.

tldr

idc anymore

 

[Poitier]

The league average efficiency is like 5 points on 40% FG

 

[The Goodz]

First... a "decent" player would not be able to get off 25 shots a game. I know you're thinking "just shoot every time" but it isn't that easy. You have to be in position, you have to actually RECEIVE the ball, you have to factor in teammates getting it to you. JR Smith is a legendary chucker, and has never shot the ball more than 15 times in a game, he's never even averaged 20 shots per game PER 36 MINUTES...

Al Harrington, another chucker who has spent time as a starter... peaks at 16... he's almost 10 short of the average... over the course of the season, that's 800 shots short of the goal.

Michael Jordan had two seasons where he shot the ball more than 25 times per game (and one of them was 25.7)

Beyond that... usage rates show a law of diminishing returns in these cases... so that as the average player increases their field goal attempts, they generally LOSE efficiency. So a decent player, that shoots 45% on 9 shots a game... if boosted to 25, would likely shoot in the low 30's. Especially because if you are FORCING up shots, that means you are taking a LARGE quantity of bad shots, contested shots, shots out of position.... it cripples your %'s.

Beyond that... you have to factor in the fact that it's the NBA, and there are coaches... and if you're a "decent' player chucking up 25 shots a game, you will get benched. Or your teammates will stop giving you the ball.

Absent the realities of MINUTES, COACHES, STRATEGY, SUBSTITUTIONS, MINUTES, etc.... you'd have to be in a vacuum of awful, where your terribleness and flailingly poor efforts didn't matter.

You would have to be the Sixers this season.

And on the sixers team... on TOTALLY DEVOID of talent, one where JUST ABOUT ANY AVERAGE PLAYER has FREE RANGE to shoot as much as they like.... it is the perfect storm incubation for your very point.

They have two players averaging 15 shots a game. They are each 10 short of the goal. Neither is averaging even 18 points per game.

That took alot of though breh

 

[Spaceman Piff]

tldr

idc anymore

 

[Swagnificent]

So how is Kobe NOT ?



Dude at practice crying like his inefficient play isn't why the Lakers suck, dude is 1-5 from 3 on a nightly basis

he's 36 years old in his 19th season with 60,000+ minutes on his legs and coming off two season ending injuries.

there's a reason most dudes who came in with Kobe are retired. what he's doing is SUPERHUMAN.