Credit Card Rewards - Let make money

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Preface: I usually don't do this except with people from my family. But I'm willing to impart some knowledge after reading through the stock thread and realizing most of you aren't financially savvy at all.
Although this sounds harsh - and it's meant to - I will bring you up to speed on how to benefit from the Credit Card game.

Notes:
1. This is not going to make you rich, this is something used to get back money or rewards for purchases you would have made anyway.

2. Credit Cards should be used similar to a debit card - meaning pay it off every month and do not spend more than what you can afford. If you are not financially stable this thread probably isn't for you.

3. You may not be able to maximize the moves posted due to your financial health and it's paramount that you are healthy. With that said, start small and build you way up.

"Meat and Potatoes":

The core of this concept - which many know but may not take full advantage of - is to look at your credit card reward programs; while there is not a one-size fits all credit card for everyone you can have 2 core cards to cover 90% of your expenses to earn money/rewards. If I told you, you could make $300 - $1000 in a year on items you already buy, why wouldn't you do?

What are earning money and rewards?

Most cards nowadays have some sort of cash back incentive or rewards incentive (i.e. frequent flyer miles, hotel loyalty programs, etc etc); however, you can run yourself think spending money on department cards, airline cards, banks cards, et al. So how can you consolidate these rewards into the best incentives for yourself and which cards should you be aiming for?

It all depends on your budget and spend habits, but this is where this thread will delve into and assist in good choices to maximize your intake.
 

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Budget #1:

Person A has the following Monthly spend habits:

1. $200 on groceries
2. $150 on gas
3. $100 on clothes at top department stores
4. $200 on restuarants
5. $200 on other spend (excluding rent, but including utilities and car payments)

that's a total spend of $850 per month and $10,200 per annum that you spend money on regardless.

Card #1:

Chase Freedom

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Chase Freedom has no annual fee to use and offers 5% back on rotating "bonus" categories every quarter. For example in quarter 1 and 3 you get 5% back on gas and in 2 and 4 you only get 1% back (which essentially is 3% annualized) Applying this to the budget above , you could earn $17.50 in a month or $210 in a year (essentially 2%, which is higher than most savings and mney market accts right now).

Again this is for money you already are going to spend.

Here's the kicker - Credit Card Olympics - you sign up for this card and you will get $200 if you spend $500 in the first 3 months. In the this budget above you would earn $200 in one month of spend. That brings you up to $210 + 200 = $410 or 4% that you earn on that cash back card!!

Credit Card Olympics - literally looking who has the best deal to give you money back for purchases you will already make!


Do you travel? Travel rewards can be even more lucrative if you prefer to get points to help you travel - I will explain this if necessary and if this thread gains interest.
 
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So card #1 was the Chase Freedom (with the rotating 5% categories)

Card #2 is a perfect compliment to the Chase Freedom because it literally allows you to utilize the Chase Points in tandem for cash back or booking travel. This card is the Chase Sapphire Preferred (this is a reserved for people with good credit, so don't be alarmed if aren't approved if you try for this card there's other cards that mimic some of the benefits).

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Beautiful card - all metal ; when you slap down on a bar table or counter it definitely catches the eye and ear.

Besides that great benefits. So, this card give you 2X points on pretty much all your essentials and 1X on some other (ignoring this for now). Now the great benefit to this card is that allows you to now transfer your reward points earning on any chase cards to your airlines/hotel loyalty programs. so what does that mean?

It's a bit difficult to explain but I will try.

The value of Chase points if you book travel through their reward portal (Chase Ultimate Rewards) is about 1.25 CENT PER POINT (or 0.0125). So if your spend Is $850 at 2X points your will earn 1700 points, which would be worth $21.25 that month. In addition, the card offers 7% dividend annually on all your points. Which now puts you at $22.75 in the month.

Now here's where it gets interesting. Let's say you're booking a flight from Boston to Japan through United Airlines first class:


Boston - Toyoko: Departing Mar 12, returning Mar 19: First class cost: $5377.60 or 135,000 points (+$49.70 in fees)

That equates to ~3.95 cent per Point ( or .0395) about a 316% increase. That makes your $22.75 now $71.80 or ~8% return on your spend (which is better than most bond and mutual funds)

So, as you can see you can really come out ahead with some of these credit cards and reward programs. This card itself has a $95 annual spend and is hard to get into, dissuading the ordinary man from utilizing the great benefits; then again, most people aren't looking for international premium flights either but again this shows how fufilling these programs can be.
 
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anyone think cash is the way to pay and dismissed credit cards; has no idea what he or she is talking about. I guarantee with perfect discipline you could run circles around anyone paying with cash or debit cards.
 

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Good thread. I've been using my Chase Freedom card all year. The 1% back on everything + 5% on revolving categories has been great to me. Plus they give you points if you buy off Amazon. I've got prime so I buy everything on Amazon now so the rewards really do add up. I've probably got back $600-700 this year from the reward points.
 

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Good thread. I've been using my Chase Freedom card all year. The 1% back on everything + 5% on revolving categories has been great to me. Plus they give you points if you buy off Amazon. I've got prime so I buy everything on Amazon now so the rewards really do add up. I've probably got back $600-700 this year from the reward points.

smart man - Chase Freedom is a great card especially for beginners.

This is a good segue into the Chase Sapphire Plus (again if you look to travel, you could reap the benefits of having both) and my favorite the American Express Blue Cash Preferred
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This is a solid card to mix and match with the Chase Freedom, I just put my good friend onto this duo of cards.

Here you get 6% on grocery stores (publix, winn Dixie, some walmarts, whole foods, etc etc). So, if you find yourself grocery shopping this is a must have card; especially, since Chase Freedom does not have a 5% category on grocery stores. Additionally, BCP (Blue Cash Preferred) gives you 3% on gas and certain department stores. What does that mean? If you use Chase Freedom 5% gas for the two quarters and the BCP 3% for two quarters you ended up with 4% cash back on gas. And Cash Freedom only has 1 quarter dedicated to department stores while BCP is 3% all year around PLUS you get the legendary AMEX warranty (which most people don't utilize but it's there).

On groceries, gas, and shopping alone you could easily net out 300-400 even on small spend.
 

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I've got my Delta AMEX Platinum for travel. I have a small business with two friends and we racked up like $300k in expenses last year. The mileage bonuses and MQM's we got were ridiculous. We each used the miles. One went to London. I went to Cali and the other guy went to Amsterdam. Got some gift cards to Mortons out of the miles too. Already back at 80k miles so next year we'll just continue feasting on the good life of free flights and food.
 

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Good thread. I've been using my Chase Freedom card all year. The 1% back on everything + 5% on revolving categories has been great to me. Plus they give you points if you buy off Amazon. I've got prime so I buy everything on Amazon now so the rewards really do add up. I've probably got back $600-700 this year from the reward points.


are you taking advantage of the Ultimate Rewards mall chase offers?

This is offtopic a bit but there's a lot of cash back reward portals (which UR basically is) that will give you cash back for shopping at certain places. So in addition to the points you receive on your Credit Cards you can double dip and get cash back just from using the portals.

I use MR rebates (link below)

http://www.mrrebates.com?refid=932880 if you do signup hit me up for the referral email!
 

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are you taking advantage of the Ultimate Rewards mall chase offers?

This is offtopic a bit but there's a lot of cash back reward portals (which UR basically is) that will give you cash back for shopping at certain places. So in addition to the points you receive on your Credit Cards you can double dip and get cash back just from using the portals.

I use MR rebates (link below)

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Yeah I've checked it out. Not really interested in most of the shops they have other than Amazon. I typically use my rewards points on Amazon purchases. Its a nice revolving door of getting points for spending on Amazon and then spending those points back on Amazon.
 

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Good look. My boys have been recently putting me on this shyt. Copped that sapphire card like 2 months ago, and I already got like 50,000 points :win:
My boys are on some next level shyt though. They open a bunch of cards at the same time and get over 100 thou in points quick as he'll. But they make sure they can pay the cards off. Another secret is to close the card before u have to pay the yearly rate, and reopen it as a new care 6 months later.
 

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Not sure if this still works but last year you could buy gold coins on your card and then take them to the bank to cash them out. You'd get the 1000 points while technically not spending a dollar. Rinse and repeat for free points. Every 1K is like $10 so do it ten times and thats a free $100 for your wallet.
 

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I've got my Delta AMEX Platinum for travel. I have a small business with two friends and we racked up like $300k in expenses last year. The mileage bonuses and MQM's we got were ridiculous. We each used the miles. One went to London. I went to Cali and the other guy went to Amsterdam. Got some gift cards to Mortons out of the miles too. Already back at 80k miles so next year we'll just continue feasting on the good life of free flights and food.

perfect and the right way to use this card, now obviously if you're flying solely Skymiles/delta affiliate this is great for you. However, it sounds like you could feast even more with the following 2-3 cards combinations:

1. Chase Ink for small business - 5X on a lot of small business supplies ( cable, internet, phone bills, and office purchases)!!!

2X on gas and hotels

no foreign transaction feee and potentially 20% discount when using Ultimate Rewards

PLUS you get the 1:1 point transfer to United, Skymiles, etc etc. So you're actually potentially earning more points than the Delta Amex platinum for Delta flights.

Lastly the annual fee is a lot less (only 95 vs $150) but you do give up AMEX's great warranty and concierge (if you use it).

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the 1:1 point transfer makes a lot of travel based reward cards obsolete and I think you would find this a richer experience than the Amex - but you're eating either way.

2. I would still recommend the Chase Sapphire Preferred

3. BArclays Arrival World MasterCard - personally my fav travel card (tied with Sapphire Preferred). This one is a hybrid travel and cash back card. Meaning you book the travel with the credit card and then you get reimbursed using the points; the cool part is that you get 10% of your miles back + because you're booking the travel you get the points that you're being reimbursed for! 2X points on EVERY purchase...great card
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I like the Amex because whenever Ive had a dispute, they shyt all over the person who tried to fukk me over. My boy was in Italy using the card and they are scumbags to tourists over there. Tried to say he fukked up the car and there was 4K in damage. I called Amex and they requested proof, pictures, before and after, etc.. Got the charges taken right off. I've never dealt with a CC company that was so easy to get refunds back from.
 
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