Crooked I spits harder than Eminem

[the rhyme king]

Bar for bar crook has always been comparable, but not as an overall artists/song writer.

lyrically i could go either way but i got eminem in this regars his ability to make words that normal people just can't do his slant rhyming and overall grasp of the english language is just on another level at least it was in his prime.

what u think @SunZoo

 

[Insensitive]

Choppy to me is like where someone is changing their sound/delivery. The opposite of a smooth and consistent delivery. Speeding up/slowing down between (or within) lines. Disconnected/interrupted lines (using the actual definition of the word lol). I also find it choppy when people try to fit in more words than sound like they should fit in a line - changing the amount of syllables you're using in different lines (which happens when cramming in extra words) sounds choppy to me too.

I don't agree with that.
Most everyone in Slaughterhouse switches schemes mid verse.
Crooked I much like Elzhi rarely sticks to one scheme the whole time
Like just a quick example they'll do somethnig like this :
ab
Two Rhymes a bar.
abba
Two end rhymes.
Two inner rhymes.
abab
Interchanging the rhymes
abba
Two End Rhymes.
Two Inner Rhymes
ab
Back to the simplistic
scheme.

Being consistent isn't a bad thing.
Dudes like Jay-Z and Lupe do it all the time
but Crooked as well as rappers like Eminem
switch their schemes and even their delivery mid verse OFTEN.

 

[the rhyme king]

I don't agree with that.
Most everyone in Slaughterhouse switches schemes mid verse.
Crooked I much like Elzhi rarely sticks to one scheme the whole time
Like just a quick example they'll somethnig like this :
ab
Two Rhymes a bar.
abba
Two end rhymes.
Two inner rhymes.
abab
Interchanging the rhymes
abba
Two End Rhymes.
Two Inner Rhymes
ab
Back to the simplistic
scheme.

Being consistent isn't a bad thing.
Dudes like Jay-Z and Lupe do it all the time
but Crooked as well as rappers like Eminem
switch their schemes and even their delivery mid verse OFTEN.

yea if anything it keeps their rhyme pattern from stale and predictable props we need more cats like talking about art of rhyming.

 

[Prae]

I don't agree with that.
Most everyone in Slaughterhouse switches schemes mid verse.
Crooked I much like Elzhi rarely sticks to one scheme the whole time
Like just a quick example they'll somethnig like this :

Being consistent isn't a bad thing.
Dudes like Jay-Z and Lupe do it all the time
but Crooked as well as rappers like Eminem
switch their schemes and even their delivery mid verse OFTEN.

I don't recall/haven't noticed Eminem doing it much in the past (I mean he might change his flow - but then he would stick with it rather than jumping back and forth). These days he changes his flow up all the time and it irritates the hell out of me. It's actually one of my biggest complaints with him these days (well aside from yelling and shytty content/pop anthems). He changes from rapping slow/normal to fast, normal voice/low volume to yelling, change back, changes again, etc - and he does it not only from one line to another, but within individual lines. I consider Rap God choppy for those same reasons.

It's just a personal preference thing I suppose.

 

[Insensitive]

I don't recall/haven't noticed Eminem doing it much in the past (I mean he might change his flow - but then he would stick with it rather than jumping back and forth). These days he changes his flow up all the time and it irritates the hell out of me. It's actually one of my biggest complaints with him these days (well aside from yelling and shytty content/pop anthems). He changes from rapping slow/normal to fast, normal voice/low volume to yelling, change back, changes again, etc - and he does it not only from one line to another, but within individual lines. I consider Rap God choppy for those same reasons.

It's just a personal preference thing I suppose.

Here's a perfect example :

In the first verse after the intro
he does a simple rhyme in the beginning.
Then switches to a complex scheme then
again goes back to a simpler flow to deliver
his punches.

He does something similar in the last minute.
He uses a really complex scheme then backs
off again.

All while changing his tone and tempo using both to
express several different emotional states.
Current Em seems to have abandoned all of that
and that's something I agree with.
This isn't to say doesn't still have schemes and punches
it's just that his style is really different now.

 

[Prae]

I'm no lyrical expert but you're right, I never really paid attention to / noticed that before. Somehow he still manages to make it sound pretty cohesive though, despite speeding up and cramming in more words and what not. And it doesn't sound as choppy to me there

These lines he is changing it up though from the rest of the first verse it seems

These mothafukkas are thinking I'm playing
Thinking I'm saying the shyt cause I'm thinking it just to be saying it

I invented violence, you vile venomous volatile bytches

Blood, guts, guns, cuts, knives, lives, wives, nuns, sluts

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

Crooked definitely is on that level of rhyming where he's straight had me with the face many times

the Chino joint and alot of the shyt from back then blew my mind and i'd definitley say he's up there with Em on a technical level. unfortuntely (just like EM) his actual music isnt always great.

Crooked's verse on this

 

[MINT]

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