Cuomo wants to let Dreamers go to college for free
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the cac mamba
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nopeand fukk your other two points, new york bytching about its high taxes and illegal immigration is all over the national news
clearly you want me to vote for the democrats via the bolded? so they'll get criticized on this. as someone who WANTS to vote for the democrats, im tired of them fukkin pandering to illegalsCabbage Patch
The Media scene in V is for Vendetta is the clue
im mexican-american, bootstrap arguments are bullshyt . . but . .
america as a white system does owe undocumented immigrants, businesses have been hiring undocumented people for such a long time, if the US was really against it, it would have stopped this a long time ago. be mad at the employers.
DACA recipients pay taxes, so for them to get free college is not a stretch
your fellow citizens don't give a fukk about you, why pretend?
so it would be better if the criminals you mentioned were citizens?
racism in this country has never left, its been here right under neath the surface, with that being said. at the end of the day, your life turns out based on what you do to get there.
if your family, friends, associates aint shyt . . dont blame the undocumented gardener, the maid, the busboy or the delivery guy . . . . trust me, they are not the ones keeping you from achieving your goals
and if an undocumented person, someone that took a chance crossing a desert, going from safe house to safe house with strangers, sneaking across the country to their final destination, being thousands of dollars in debt from day 1 (smugglers fee), then working a menial job, no english, few legal rights, . . accomplishes more than a citizen that was born here . . . . take your L
my statement is solid though . . if you think getting rid of every single undocumented person overnight is gonna completely change black people's lives . . youre gonna be disappointed
American citizen is held down and held back by white supremacy
Illegal non-citizen is coddled by white supremacyNaturalized citizens do it the right way, embarking on their own dangerous journey
Illegals line jump and end up with more benefits than both native born and naturalized citizensThe US owes illegals jack shyt. Especially illegals propping up the governments of the countries they left with the American cash they send home.
If the US puts black folk under the boot but coddles Mexicans, it's not because Mexicans put more work in than blacks or are more deserving than blacks. It's because illegals are benefitting from being citizens of another country therefore the US has to be careful how they treat the residents of another country.
Because blacks are citizens, there is no such tippytoeing.
So Asians get to thieve and steal and deal drugs without the repercussions nikkas get. Nobody is checking for them. The group hides them and white supremacy looks the other way because of the money. And Mexicans get to murder and import meth and engage in pedophilia and human sex trafficking without the repercussions nikkas get, because of the money. Mexico has a no extradition treaty with the US with regards to murder. What does Mexico give the US in return for harboring murderers?
But you really made the argument that Nikkas are starting at an advantage over illegals and therefore the disadvantages nikkas face don't really exist.
You're really arguing illegals start at a disadvantage over nikkas at the same time you argue illegals are protected, recruited and coddled by Big Business. And you argue it to say thay illegals take better advantage of the advantages of being protected by big business than nikkas take advantage of the disadvantages of being blocked by the same.
Nikkas are not cacs. But it's revealing that you group nikkas with cacs by using the bootstrap argument.
There's your Mexican ally, @HopeKillCure. The black experience is neither understood, nor fathomed. They are not brown allies. They are willing, eager recipients of white supremacist largesse.
They bought the propaganda.
what about them? legal immigrants . . they can get it also
landscapers? i dont understand your statement
DACA recipients pay taxes, so . . no its not free
if you think Undocumented immigrants have a massive advantage over citizens, those people should live how they live, im sure thats the only thing stopping them from being a millionaire
again my statement rings true, if you as a citizen, dont take advantage of this country's opportunities, and meanwhile some undocumented goofball with a 4th grade education, working menial jobs for years, little english can attain a house, a business . . . dont blame him for making something
dj-method-x
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Naturalized citizens do it the right way, embarking on their own dangerous journey
This is false.
And for the record, we are talking about DREAMERS. People who were brought over here as children and have lived here since a very early age, some who have had children that are citizens. They didn't do anything wrong but have parents who broke the law at one poiint in time. To make the insane statement that their lives are easier than anybody else's or they are getting benefits not afforded to others is fukking preposterous and a lie.
You're a CAC, what aren't you tired of ?
and fukk your other two points, new york bytching about its high taxes and illegal immigration is all over the national news
You people bytch about everything. Go back to st0rmfr0nt, they might understand you.Cabbage Patch
The Media scene in V is for Vendetta is the clue
Israel was given to Russian Jews and Russian non-Jew refugees by Europe and the US.The Aztec and Olmec may have faced the same kind of genocide that much of the North American Natives faced, but most of Mexico was still Native, mixed, or criollo, not peninsulares like you're implying.
And I'm not understanding you're second point, the Israeli apartheid state differs vastly from giving Dreamers access to the same resources as NYers already get
The original Zionist zealots wanted Argentina. The Nazis got there first, but that's not the reason Israel was given Palestine instead.
Israel engaged in a series of wars and police state actions against the people who already lived there. Israel kept breaking treaties and agreements with the backing of the US and Britain (and the USSR), killing the people already there and engaging in ethnic cleansing. Israel bulit housing for Jews on Palestinian land with no repercussions and became damned entitled.
And now Palestinians are refugees in their own home, surrounded by a people who want them dead and gone.
While Israel builds walls to keep everybody else out.
Illegals will do Americans like Israel did the Palestinians, until the lie that this was always illegal land -- illegals with only a mythical connection to the original occupants -- becomes truth.
Oceanicpuppy
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How are we stupid for arguing that its unfair displace US citizens cant qualify for free tuition programs but Dreamers who are displaced Immigrants can?
Cabbage Patch
The Media scene in V is for Vendetta is the clue
2012 poster ... of course you are.
because moron, displaced ppl like those impacted by Harvey got assistance with priority help if relocation is needed.
now if you ass wants to leave Nebraska and go to school in NY, your ass gonna pay those fees... or you can abide by the rules in place and get that residency
Oceanicpuppy
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But they displaced US citizens and their only crime is moving after a hurricane after their area is destroyed.
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you bytch made n have a flab of skin for testicles
Oceanicpuppy
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Not everyone was given assistance in a timely manner. People are still waiting for assistance from Sandy. People are still waiting for additional assistance in Puerto Rico. So what are you babbling about?
Yes the government gives enough money in a timely manner to everyone effected.........
American citizen is held down and held back by white supremacy
Naturalized citizens do it the right way, embarking on their own dangerous journey
The US owes illegals jack shyt. Especially illegals propping up the governments of the countries they left with the American cash they send home.
If the US puts black folk under the boot but coddles Mexicans, it's not because Mexicans put more work in than blacks or are more deserving than blacks. It's because illegals are benefitting from being citizens of another country therefore the US has to be careful how they treat the residents of another country.
Because blacks are citizens, there is no such tippytoeing.
So Asians get to thieve and steal and deal drugs without the repercussions nikkas get. Nobody is checking for them. The group hides them and white supremacy looks the other way because of the money. And Mexicans get to murder and import meth and engage in pedophilia and human sex trafficking without the repercussions nikkas get, because of the money. Mexico has a no extradition treaty with the US with regards to murder. What does Mexico give the US in return for harboring murderers?
But you really made the argument that Nikkas are starting at an advantage over illegals and therefore the disadvantages nikkas face don't really exist.
You're really arguing illegals start at a disadvantage over nikkas at the same time you argue illegals are protected, recruited and coddled by Big Business. And you argue it to say thay illegals take better advantage of the advantages of being protected by big business than nikkas take advantage of the disadvantages of being blocked by the same.
Nikkas are not cacs. But it's revealing that you group nikkas with cacs by using the bootstrap argument.
There's your Mexican ally, @HopeKillCure. The black experience is neither understood, nor fathomed. They are not brown allies. They are willing, eager recipients of white supremacist largesse.
They bought the propaganda.
1- how are they cuddled by the government?
2-legal immigrants own "dangerous journey" ? i guess, those paper cuts are a bytch
3-the US and latin american countries are tied through commerce, political and military situations. for example, NAFTA had the adverse effect of putting many mexican farmers out of business because cheap american corn flooded the mexican market, hence illegal immigration to america, also a willingness of vast industries to employ undocumented immigrants.
4-you mean the governments the US props up
5-they worked for their cash, they can send it anywhere
6-the US treats mexicans better because they from another country?! . . . that means jack shyt to america
7-money, no repercussions? so no mexicans have ever been arrested for crimes because they pay the federal government? . . what the hell are you talking about?
8-i clearly say that racism is still a massive problem here, but with that being said . . you mean to tell me a mexican with no papers, doesnt speak english, has no skills, already in debt as soon as he steps foot in this country (smugglers fee) . . has an advantage over the average citizen . . . is BS
9-explain how an undocumented immigrant has an advantage over you to attaining a better life?
I consider myself leftist, racism is still ingrained into the fabric of this country and the main group that has bore the brunt of that horrendous injustice is black people, there are obstacles for you that ill never experience, but ultimately you get what you put in. I cant seriously say white supremacists are to blame because i decided to shoot someone or choose to not gain better skills so i can advance in life.