Curren$y & The Alchemist - The Carrollton Heist (Mixtape)

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After a few days, with Alc's projects since 2010 (so not including Return of the Mac) also not including the Gangrene albums, since Oh No produces half of those. No instrumental albums either.

I got it like:

Top shelf: Covert Coup, Albert Einstein, Lord Steppington
Mid shelf: Carrollton Heist, 360 Waves, My 1st Chemistry Set, Rare Chandeliers,
Bottom shelf: No Idols, Masterpiece Theater, FASH-ionably Late, Russian Roulette

I definitely have Carrollton Heist in the upper mid tier if I had to break it down even further. It would probably be the #4 or #5 spot.
 

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WTF ... where does this dude ALC get his samples and synths from, dudes drum game is fukking insane ... them drum rolls have me like :lawd:

I prefer this tape over covert coupe for sure, these beats are fukking heavenly
 

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its funny that the majority of the best releases this decade cant even be found on Itunes, simply said, this genre is nothing without sampling
I have never and will never understand the sampling=unoriginal/lazy/less skilled crowd. It's not even a matter of opinion. You can even go really far down the logical rabbit hole and say that basically everything is sampling to some degree. But yeah good sampling is a crazy skill set to have
 

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I have never and will never understand the sampling=unoriginal/lazy/less skilled crowd. It's not even a matter of opinion. You can even go really far down the logical rabbit hole and say that basically everything is sampling to some degree. But yeah good sampling is a crazy skill set to have

people with that mentality try to hold it to conventional standards of songwriting, the way I see iit, its similar to collage art, taking influence and textures of past work and restructuring into something entirely new, sometimes to the point where you can't even recognize the source material.
 
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The soundstage on this one is larger than Covert Coup, but I would say that the overall melodies on Carrollton Heist are recessed.
Sonically, Carrollton Heist is gigantic, which is how it gets away with having less forward and less aggressive melodic ballads.

It's not fair to compare the two on a blow by blow, the two mixtapes are doritos to donuts.

That said, some elements are similar - familiar drum patterns - tracks with highly memorable 2 bar drum cadences over extended 4 or 8 bar instrumental sample sequence. I'd say Alchemist's collaging has improved greatly over the last 5 years since the release of Covert Coup, although the overall the immediate catchiness of Covert Coup melodies are uncontested.

Black Rally Stripes shows the growth of the dynamic between ALC and Curren$y, especially in the second half of the song. Curren$y seems more comfortable and at home on Carrollton Heist - one of the most organic flows on the entire project, not to mention how the beat melts from the initial soundtrack prog sample at the beginning, and drags its final intro note to a stretched sample that pulsates with the drums to create an entire beat aside from the looped hook at the end of every fourth bar.

Aside from the glaringly obvious attempts to tie in a theme using sound bites from movies, Carrollton Heist still would sound like a more cohesive project than Covert Coup. (maybe still arguable, but I think pacing on CH is more even-keel than CC)

I'd say you could find a parallel from each track on Covert Coup for each track of Carrollton Heist (someone had asked about a Blood Sweat and Gears equivalent - 500 Pounds Of Gas comes to mind based on its similar intricacies (but I also can't help but tie the production of 500 Pounds Of Gas to the arpeggiator inspired beats from Boldy James and Alchemist's M1CS album)).

As TheDarceKnight summed up well, Covert Coup is nearly bulletproof.
Also, it's had 5 solid years to marinate - I catch myself reminiscing of all of the good times that I had while listening to Covert Coup, and those moments will more than likely outnumber any other project I've been listening to in the last 5 years.
Carrollton Heist kept me in a good place for the last couple of days. I'm not sure another Covert Coup is remotely possible, there has to be a lot of luck involved in creating a project that is that good - it was stupid - and most of all, it was a project that no one had clear set expectations of - Alchemist was trying an untested style while shooting from the hip with those types of beats, and Curren$y had never worked extensively with ALC prior to (really, just an unlikely musical pairing as far as I'm concerned based on Curren$y's catalogue prior to).
 
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to me, spitta don't get no better then the harry fraud tape, showroom chandelier and what it look like, spitta...i don't think he will top it with this one....still a verry solid project
 
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